This thread is interesting to me. I have read quite a lot of criticism of the NWT in the past (including the book by Countess) and found a lot of it to be reasonable. Not to mention that there did seem to be a large number of Greek scholars who had made statements against the NWT, and the fact that the WTBTS's list of supporting scholars was pretty weak (in some cases misleading regarding their credentials). Now this one scholar pipes up and basically says that criticism is all wrong, those 20 people you mentioned are all wrong, really in fact there is no consensus against the NWT because scholars don't have time, in fact the NWT is fabulous, etc. Just seems very curious. I for one did not find Countess' book "mostly tendentious and disputable". Of course I am not a Greek scholar [tm].
While I agree that the NWT is quite literally acurate in 99% of the verses, it is the 1% of tweaking that is an issue IMHO.
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Prof. Jason BeDuhn letter on the NWT/KIT (part 1)
by bj insome days ago i asked you if someone wrote to prof j. buduhn who is quoted in the watchtower 1 february 1998, p. 32. here's what i received from him.
as every translation does.
jesus one can say "my god.
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Any Chess Players in here?
by jelly inhello,.
any chess players in here, and if so how about a match on yahoo?.
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julien
Kewl, do you play on there a lot? I will look you up one of these nites. Although I warn you I am just a beginner.
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Any Chess Players in here?
by jelly inhello,.
any chess players in here, and if so how about a match on yahoo?.
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Philo,
I have always wanted to learn to play Go, but I have only ever played it against computer programs. Which I understand are extremely weak players due to the complexity of Go. -
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Holidays: Do you celebrate?
by Vitameatavegamin ini smell something burning; oh, just me thinking again!!.
anyway, one thing i always missed were the holidays-christmas especially.
i know that this is an unproven celebration to say the least, but i have always loved the warmth and beauty of this holiday, although very commercialized in this day and age.
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Shaneliza: you could try what we do, pick one present to open on Xmas Eve, leave the rest for the morning. Oh and to answer the thread question yes I celebrate them all and I love it.
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Favourite Bands...............
by JW72 inhi everyone, i'm a musician so this poll is quite interesting to me(not that the others aren't.....).. 1. wishbone ash.
2. genesis.
3. extreme.
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Led Zeppelin
Velvet Underground
Pink Floyd
Kansas
Smashing Pumpkins
Beastie Boys
Dead Can Dance
Durutti Column
Tangerine Dream (early)classical:
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When is THE Dateline due to air?
by Bridgette inbreif hx: i grew up in the "truth".
completely out for over two glorious years.
for the most part, i keep busy getting on with and the most out of life.
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I for one am looking forward to the program but I am not expecting any effect on the average loyal JW. It will be chalked up to disgruntled apostates and satan's persecution. I think most of them won't even watch it. The ones that do are either a) types who would leave eventually anyway b) dunscott or You Know types..
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Big Bang Question
by chappy inwhat is the origen,(fact, theory or speculation) of the infinitly small point of energy that started it all?.
later,.
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Although its been mentioned in brief before I just wanted to make the point that the concept phyisicists hold of the BIGBANG is that it is not an explosion but an expansion.
Thanks for pointing that out. One of the things that really got my attention in the "Creation" book was the (unbelievably bad) argument that the big bang is not logical because explosions (eg bombs) destroy things, not create! Of course you can't just raise your hand and point out how stupid this argument is at the book study.
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Big Bang Question
by chappy inwhat is the origen,(fact, theory or speculation) of the infinitly small point of energy that started it all?.
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As far as I know, nothing just happens!
Well you would be wrong then. Quantum events 'just happen' all the time. An atomic nucleus can sit there for 100 million years and suddenly just emit an alpha particle out of the blue. More importantly, even in a perfect vacuum, particles (subatomic that is) can spontaneously appear. In fact this is happening continuously. These particles also rapidly disappear. The length of time they stick around is related to the amount of energy they 'borrow' from the void.
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Big Bang Question
by chappy inwhat is the origen,(fact, theory or speculation) of the infinitly small point of energy that started it all?.
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Why does God have to have a cause? What if God is a different type of lifeform all together? What if he is able to dwell outside of space, time and all the other aspects of the universe that affect our physical person? He would have to be right, to be able to manipulate all those things to bring about the material universe?
If such a creature as this can exist without cause, then surely this universe could also exist without cause.
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Big Bang Question
by chappy inwhat is the origen,(fact, theory or speculation) of the infinitly small point of energy that started it all?.
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The big bang singularity included everything that later became matter *and* spacetime. At the singularity space and time were meaningless.
You can't really speculate about where it came "from" because we have no information about anything outside of our universe. Nor can you wonder what came 'before' it, as from our standpoint there was no before.This is not a case of a universe of empty space with a tiny point of infinite energy in the center waiting to explode. The big bang was an expansion of space and time and matter. You can wonder if something outside of the universe created the singularity, although 'outside' is not really a meaningful concept here, the universe doesn't have inside and outside.
And yes ballistic there are scientists who are toying with the idea of 'virtual bubble universes' that can appear spontaneously.