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  Olympic Hockey Final: Canada vs. USA

  by Gerard in

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  go canada!.

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  Go Canada!
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  GENETICS- CREATIONISTS need not be INTIMIDATED.

  by hooberus in

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  genetics- creationists need not be intimidated.. .

  internet evolutionists almost universally and repetitiously proclaim that modern neo-darwinian evolutionary theory is supported by overwhelming evidence and that there is no evidence for biblical creation (or even mere intelligent design) for that matter.

  they will dogmatically claim that evolution receives universal support from all the real scientists and all the facts from genetics, biology, geology, paleontology, and every other ology that one can think of.

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  Creationism is about faith, it is not factual are certainly it is not science, even if they try to use scientific terms or try to piggy-ride their hopes behind knowledge.

  Creationists are nothing more than judeo-christian fundies with the exact same book under their arm. How can they demand to be taken seriously in the scientific realm when they cannot even acknowledge the true age of Earth? Venturing into genetics is even moe ridiculous. Their religious views require a denial of essentially all modern scientific knowledge.

  But creationist spammers are expected, as they are instructed to feed the illusion that there is a scientific "controversy"where in fact there is no scientific controversy regarding the validity of evolution. The "controversy" exists solely in terms of religion:

  Teach the Controversy = a part of a religious ploy with the intent to cast doubt upon the very concept of established knowledge.
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  GENETICS- CREATIONISTS need not be INTIMIDATED.

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  genetics- creationists need not be intimidated.. .

  internet evolutionists almost universally and repetitiously proclaim that modern neo-darwinian evolutionary theory is supported by overwhelming evidence and that there is no evidence for biblical creation (or even mere intelligent design) for that matter.

  they will dogmatically claim that evolution receives universal support from all the real scientists and all the facts from genetics, biology, geology, paleontology, and every other ology that one can think of.

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  Why does the WTBS hate sex so much?

  by highdose in

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  now i know they try to control everything and pretty much ban anything.

  but sex seems to be somthing they can't stand and would like to get rid of completly if they could.

  so many articles and so much conusel about not having sex or having anything to do with sex from any angle at all.

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  It is not that the GB hates sex", but being a primordial function, this cult exploits it and turn it into a guilt-generating thought.
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  Doesn't the WTS say that blood can't carry oxygen for the first 24 hours after a transfusion?

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

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  some jws have told me that blood transfusions cannot save lives in the case of catastrophic bleeding (for example, resulting from an auto accident) because blood cannot carry oxygen for 24 hours after it has been transfused.

  is this in print in wt publications?

  it must be, because i've heard it on multiple occasions from different jws.. i find it very hard to believe that such a statement is true.

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  Justpassing, a chronic anemia, mosquito bite, broken nail or cat scratch may not need a blood transfusion and you can quote thousands of articles about it, but that does not face the reality of its value following a sudden hemorrhage. What part of emergency transfusion you don't get?
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  Borg court: 1st session

  by sd-7 in

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  record of committee meeting #1. after prayer, proverbs 28:13 was read: "he who is covering over his transgressions will not succeed, but he who is confessing and leaving them will be shown mercy.

  " the need to confess to jehovah was emphasized.

  as jehovah's representatives, the elders said we therefore needed to confess to them.

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  When all is done, show happiness to your wife and express the multitude of opportunities opening before you two.

  I would probably DF myself in my own terms and tell them off with style. (I'm not an ex-JW, I married one)

  Good luck.

  PS: Oil the door hinges so the door-slam is one they won't forget.
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  Doesn't the WTS say that blood can't carry oxygen for the first 24 hours after a transfusion?

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  some jws have told me that blood transfusions cannot save lives in the case of catastrophic bleeding (for example, resulting from an auto accident) because blood cannot carry oxygen for 24 hours after it has been transfused.

  is this in print in wt publications?

  it must be, because i've heard it on multiple occasions from different jws.. i find it very hard to believe that such a statement is true.

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  “We are only now starting to realize what happens to blood when it is drawn out of a human body and sent to the blood bank for storage. Blood undergoes changes profoundly, even in the first 24 hours. The major effect is loss of nitric oxide, which is really fundamental to the process of oxygen exchange.” --Justpassing

  Dear justpassing, your quote is alarmist and misleading. Vasoconstriction is a normal physiological response to severe hemorrhage, caused not by blood transfusion but by the human body itself as an attempt to raise blood pressure to vital organs.

  A vasodilator (nitric-oxide synthase or nitric acid?) can be applied separately, depending on the patient's body mass.

  The issue is like that of blaming your car becuse it has no kitchen to cook the food you just loaded at the market. The car is only a vehicle to transport it from the market to your house. Similarly, the blood transfusion will only replace lost cells; if the patient needs more volume, you add isotonic solution, if he needs vasodilators, you add them; if he needs additional oxygen, you supply it; need clotting factors, you apply them; need platelets, you apply them, etc. There is not one medication cocktail that will manage all your physiology upon transfusion....although biotech companie$ would want you to believe you need it.

  The documents i have come across regarding nitric oxide in banked blood for vasodilation or platelet activation are all sponsored by biotech companies that want to sell their drug cocktail. Of course, their view is commercially slanted for finantial gain from a "ready to sell" product" that most patients will not benefit from.

  Unfortunately, the WT is ready to blow such alarmist commercial claims out of proportion for their own benefit.
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  Doesn't the WTS say that blood can't carry oxygen for the first 24 hours after a transfusion?

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  some jws have told me that blood transfusions cannot save lives in the case of catastrophic bleeding (for example, resulting from an auto accident) because blood cannot carry oxygen for 24 hours after it has been transfused.

  is this in print in wt publications?

  it must be, because i've heard it on multiple occasions from different jws.. i find it very hard to believe that such a statement is true.

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  When blood is stored over time, 2,3-DPG begins to lose its function. [...] Blood today is usually not stored for more than a day or two either. --TD

  Hello, TD, I agree with your high quality post and I am glad someone wants to venture into molecular biology to explain the limits of transfusion. However, these two sentences above need of some correction or updating. Research indicated some time ago that the rapid fall in 2,3-DPG activity can be delayed significantly by cooling whole blood units rapidly after bleeding. Then, packed blood cells are stored in a fridge (4 degrees Celsius) for 35 days. After that, the 2,3-DPG enzyme activity is so low that oxigen transfer in vivo is not suficient. Besides, after 35 days, other molecular changes affect the red cells and they begin to lyse (die).

  Check this for other blood component storage limits:

  http://www.muktafoundation.org/content/view/53/42/

  Cheers!
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  Doesn't the WTS say that blood can't carry oxygen for the first 24 hours after a transfusion?

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  some jws have told me that blood transfusions cannot save lives in the case of catastrophic bleeding (for example, resulting from an auto accident) because blood cannot carry oxygen for 24 hours after it has been transfused.

  is this in print in wt publications?

  it must be, because i've heard it on multiple occasions from different jws.. i find it very hard to believe that such a statement is true.

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  He said banked blood is usually blue. If you take some of the blood and shake it in a bottle it turns red from the oxygen in the air.

  That guy told you bullshit.The color of blood (red blood cells / hemoglobin) is red.

  Low oxygen content makes them dark red; normal oxygen content makes them bright red. They never turn blue under any circumstance. Sometimes anatomy and physiology books use blue color as a schematic image to ilustrate the concept of blood carrying low oxygen content, that may be his confusion.

  Cheers
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  Doesn't the WTS say that blood can't carry oxygen for the first 24 hours after a transfusion?

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  some jws have told me that blood transfusions cannot save lives in the case of catastrophic bleeding (for example, resulting from an auto accident) because blood cannot carry oxygen for 24 hours after it has been transfused.

  is this in print in wt publications?

  it must be, because i've heard it on multiple occasions from different jws.. i find it very hard to believe that such a statement is true.

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  One other thing to mention is that the majority of transfusions given in surgery, usually between 1-2 units, has been found to be inappropriate. A study showed that in two large groups of patients, the blood either had no benefit at all (wasting blood supply), or resulted in negitive outcomes (heart attack, stroke, lung injury, infection and kidney failure, and death). Hemorrhaging/trauma is a different story, this appears to be the only group of patients to actually benefit from blood. [...] --justpassing

  The above statement is also bullshit. Nobody gives a packed cell transfusion just for fun. Whether the hemorrhage was caused by surgery, disease or trauma is irrelevant. All three causes of (extreme) hemorrhage benefit from the transfusion if the arterial oxigen drops below certain threshold.

  If the patient develops immunity for certain blood antigens that put him at risk for a second transfusion is another story, yet vastly more manageable than hypoxia (severe low blood oxigen).