just as an aside, i wouldnt bash th OP on this. I take it at his/her word that the announcment was made and i have heard similar made from time to time locally. What i do think is that it is for a local project, be it KH or Assembly Hall or similar and the OP simply mistook it for an organization wide thing.
elderelite
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It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
by raymond frantz ini just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.
although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .
the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.
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I've been thinking the Bible isn't legitimate--long indoor mat-rant
by sd-7 ini'm not sure where this thought came from (believers will no doubt say 'from satan'), but it has started to coalesce in my brain lately.
i've often referred to the bible and argued from it to debunk jw beliefs, and still tried to consider it as a great piece of literature at the very least.
but as my wife was listening to the meeting on a loud speaker phone at home this weekend, i just had this thought.
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elderelite
i know this is SD's thread but i actually felt like leaving the bible behind was BETTER than leaving the org behind... not sure why but realizing its jewish fairy tales did wonders for me
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repeat movies
by fakesmile inthere are a very small number of movies that i can watch more than once.
most get old after the first viewing.. there are very few movies i can watch over and again.. i love having a six pack of tall boys and watching "apocolypse now".. i love watching "tommy, the movie" on the rare occation that i have a doobie.. what movie would yoou reccommend as a "must own"or "must appreciate"?.
any opinions welcome.. .
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elderelite
In no particular order:
The godfather, the matrix, empire strikes back (I AM YOUR FATHER!) a New hope, shawshank is freakin awesome, avengers is getting to be on that list, the original superman, sumersby,
damn i could keep going and going...
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DISPUTE THIS KNOW-IT-ALLS!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just came from the meeting and was told that the new world translation is the best in the world according to jason beduhn.
the nwt does go all the way back to the original languages.
the nwt does not change words to support doctrines.
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elderelite
although Im lmfao at this the funny OP and responses, i would point out that this isnt actually "new" at all. Its been in the reasoning book since 1985 as their defense of their bible....
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I've been thinking the Bible isn't legitimate--long indoor mat-rant
by sd-7 ini'm not sure where this thought came from (believers will no doubt say 'from satan'), but it has started to coalesce in my brain lately.
i've often referred to the bible and argued from it to debunk jw beliefs, and still tried to consider it as a great piece of literature at the very least.
but as my wife was listening to the meeting on a loud speaker phone at home this weekend, i just had this thought.
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elderelite
LOL while you know that star wars usually scratches me where i itch, i think the matrix illistration fits a bit better. thinking we were awake, living a real life, only to find it was all a lie.... hard to get more apt than that
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It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
by raymond frantz ini just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.
although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .
the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.
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elderelite
negative. It is NOT a demographic announcement. First, the branch has no way to know differentiate the rich from the poor in a given area. It would be naive to think that everyone in a particular city is either well off or below the poverty level. Every city, every state, every town for that matter, has a mix of people and demographics so trying to single out specific congregations to hit up for money is just not practical.
Second, the branch has never made an announcement of any sort to a specific demographic. To general areas in the case of emergency's yes, but not to specific demographics.
Third, its a cult. They expect even the poor to donate generously. They wouldnt deny anyone a chance to give till it hurts.
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It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
by raymond frantz ini just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.
although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .
the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.
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elderelite
i cannot confirm, HOWEVER it may not be "bs" in a pure sense. I have heard such announcments made locally when a building project is going on, be it local KH or new assembly hall. Under those circumstances it is SOP to ask for intreset free loan, so the announcment may simply have been local in nature
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I've been thinking the Bible isn't legitimate--long indoor mat-rant
by sd-7 ini'm not sure where this thought came from (believers will no doubt say 'from satan'), but it has started to coalesce in my brain lately.
i've often referred to the bible and argued from it to debunk jw beliefs, and still tried to consider it as a great piece of literature at the very least.
but as my wife was listening to the meeting on a loud speaker phone at home this weekend, i just had this thought.
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elderelite
"why do my eyes hurt...?"
"you've never used them"
Like that scene from the matrix you are waking up, to the real world SD. We all were living a life based on Jewish fairytales. well played SD, and keep thinking and using your power of reason
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Quick question, did you feel lonely at the meetings even though you were part of the action?
by Theocratic Sedition injust curious, something i've noticed only lately.
i'm in the mix within the congregation, stay late after the meeting is over, converse with quite a few people afterwards, make plans for saturday and sometimes sunday service and yet i feel so awfully alone walking to my car afterwards.
i feel lonely when i'm talking and laughing with people after the meeting.
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elderelite
Of course. And i think as elders who ar eused to being really in the mix its very pronounced at times.... But as 00dad said, how can you connect when you know its based on false assumptions.... Fs is the absolute worst. I dont even pretend to go out anymore :P its a tough spot but its the life we have choosen.
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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil
by Dogpatch indear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
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elderelite
I have the program for the school at the end of the year.... It was posted here somewhere... Major boring crap.