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  The hidden message in the June 15 2009 watchtower.

  by Hobo Ken in

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  this study will set the tone for future-proofing the watchtower society doctrine that their governing body is "the faithful slave" mentioned in parable by jesus in matthew24.. i thought as i read the study article starting on p.20 that the most important thing about this piece is what is missing, what is not said.. the first paragraph sets the tone of what they are trying to convey.. "while giving the composite sign of the last days jesus said, who really is the faithful and discreet slave?".

  i believe what they are doing with the opening paragraph is placing the authority and position of "the slave" within the context of the signs of the times thus attempting to validate it.

  without mentioning when they became such.. they then say that jesus would "reward" and appoint this slave over all his belongings.

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  Holy calling the shot before the pitch, batman! that was really really well done!
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  What the Domestics part of the "new light" can / will create

  by Gorbatchov in

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  thinking a lot last days about the new light about the fds, today i got an idea about the following.. - both the 1) annointed and 2) the rank and file witness aka great crowd are now part of the domestics.. so, in practice, it doesn't matter you have a heavenly or and earthly hope for the future.. because, the domestics can have a heavenly or an earthly hope.. what i think is that this part of the new light sets open the gates for jehovahs witnesses with a heavenly hope.. and more in future: how longer the "new systems of things" will stay away, the watchtower can switch to a doctrine with only a heavenly hope, "living for ever in a paradise in heaven".. what do you think about this?!?.

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  Lol your right james... I cant keep either. The chariot has clearly left me behind
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  What the Domestics part of the "new light" can / will create

  by Gorbatchov in

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  thinking a lot last days about the new light about the fds, today i got an idea about the following.. - both the 1) annointed and 2) the rank and file witness aka great crowd are now part of the domestics.. so, in practice, it doesn't matter you have a heavenly or and earthly hope for the future.. because, the domestics can have a heavenly or an earthly hope.. what i think is that this part of the new light sets open the gates for jehovahs witnesses with a heavenly hope.. and more in future: how longer the "new systems of things" will stay away, the watchtower can switch to a doctrine with only a heavenly hope, "living for ever in a paradise in heaven".. what do you think about this?!?.

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  Split the differance: everyone partakes, 144k is litteral but is only fds 'class' comprise it
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  do some stop attending meetings because they do not receive an appointment?

  by solomon in

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  consider ryan from jan study watchtower.

  ryan, a 32 year old ministerial servant, relocated to a new congregation.

  "i expected to be recommended as an elder soon," ryan relates, "but a. year went by without that happening.

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  I referance that im still an elder ;) im very powerful and stand above the average dubbie.

  To answer the OP, yes, some do. I definatly can attest that some chase 'privledges' by swiching halls... See that a lot.
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  What the Domestics part of the "new light" can / will create

  by Gorbatchov in

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  thinking a lot last days about the new light about the fds, today i got an idea about the following.. - both the 1) annointed and 2) the rank and file witness aka great crowd are now part of the domestics.. so, in practice, it doesn't matter you have a heavenly or and earthly hope for the future.. because, the domestics can have a heavenly or an earthly hope.. what i think is that this part of the new light sets open the gates for jehovahs witnesses with a heavenly hope.. and more in future: how longer the "new systems of things" will stay away, the watchtower can switch to a doctrine with only a heavenly hope, "living for ever in a paradise in heaven".. what do you think about this?!?.

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  elderelite

  I would modify to say it opens the door for them to say that if you arnt part of the fds then you arnt going to heaven.
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  Indisputable proof that an empathetic god exists, I've got evidence.

  by Theocratic Sedition in

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  alcohol.

  its been around since forever.

  god knew there would be no shortage of cretins and insecurities.

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  Beer is proof god wants us to be happy :)
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  Jesus wife fragment is a fake

  by Christ Alone in

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  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

  gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

  karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

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  What a shame. Its the same ploy rutherford used. Every cult has to have a hook, something unique. Rutherford used (insert desert god's name) as his hook... Aguest has her jeheshua whatamacallhim. Its all attention grapping and designed to make themselves 'special'. And if you "hear" the name wispered to you then your special too!

  Fraud , deciet and attention whoring.
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  Jesus wife fragment is a fake

  by Christ Alone in

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  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

  gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

  karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

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  elderelite

  Tec, saying other people have used the name and citing examples are very different things. No one, not one person in all human history, not scribbled on a piece of parchment, not written on clay or on a cave wall or a piece of paper or carved in stone, not one single person ever has used those words to identify the lord. Not. One . Person.

  Except your prophetess of course. She heard it some years ago and now you "heard" it. Funny thing that.... And again i say, not one single person ever used it before her and now, you.

  But you arnt following her? Its not a cult of personality that you have been sucked into? Before long it will be bizzare vision of dead bones and dragons and languages old than hebrew. Simple "hearing" wont be enough eventually.

  Show me one person, besides your prophetess, who uses or identifies the lord by that bizzare name and ill offer prayers to him by name daily. Just one.
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  Jesus wife fragment is a fake

  by Christ Alone in

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  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

  gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

  karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

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  While i certainly agree about the messages EP, im afraid if we give tec too much room to change the subject she will use it to avoid addressing the key point:

  No one, in 2000 years since the lord was supposed to have lived and died, no one has ever used the name "jaheshua mischaja" except ONE PERSON. Not one person in 2000 years. Not one single person, living or dead EVER reported, noted, observed, stated, carved into stone,wrote on clay or in any way shape or for form used the name. Not. One. Person. Other than your prophetess. Now all of a sudden you "hear it wispered", you alone, in the last 2000 years of human life, out of the billions of people who are living and have lived, YOU hear something NO ONE else has, but we are supposed its to believe its not DIRECTLY tied to your prophetess?
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  Jesus wife fragment is a fake

  by Christ Alone in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/gospel-jesus-wife-forgery.

  gospel of jesus's wife is fake, claims expertscholar says papyrus fragment believed to provide evidence that jesus was married is a modern forgery.

  karen king from harvard university holds the papyrus fragment that has four words written in coptic, which are believed to prove jesus was married.

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  elderelite

  Sooooooo..... Your answer to all my points is basically, 'im comfortable that im not in a cult so its ok'... You'll understand that while i respect your right to be in a cult (i myself am) i would hope you would at least be aware of it.

  How noteworthy too that you ignored adressing the name itself. I read your earlier link a few days ago and meant to point out that, while interesting, they dont ACTUALLY make your point. NOT ONE of those links uses the bizzare name your prophetess (and now you) use. Not. One. In fact i reiterate that NOT ONE PERSON in the last 2000 years has used or related that lord has used that name for himself. Not. One. Person. But your not in a cult...? A few cut and pastes to prove me wrong would be nice, but please make sure they actually use the name. The links before simply used other COMMON names, not the UNIQUE and bizzare name that only ONE OTHER PERSON IN THE LAST 2000 YEARS has used. ONE OTHER PERSON IN 2000 YEARS.