Posts by justhuman

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Why WTS Wants A Young Girl To Die

by metatron in

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here we have a paradox - a mystery on which a life hangs.. the society dumped their new blood cards.

they write ambiguous replies to "questions from.

readers" about what blood products can or can't be taken.

justhuman

It is indeed sad

How many innocent people have to die because of this matter. If only they could back and check the history of organ transplants prohibition. it was consider to be cannibalistic, because it was like eating human flesh according to the WT explanation. The same excuse regarding blood. When in 1981 when they WT said is okey and is a matter of concious, and drop the matter. Blood is organ liquid, and is exactly the same case like organ transplants.

I'm just wondering this old men in Brooklyn don't they fear God at all. Don't they feel the bloodguild upon their heads, that they have towards the lives that have been lost all this years, and still continue their deception. The most crue and Satanic case, it is to see someone dying and not willing to help him/her, because God according to the pervered minds of a bunch of a false profets, God wan'ts you to die.

This is the God of the WT a God of hate, not Jesus who said "the gratest love is to give your life for your friends" and blood it is life.

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How many here are still active JWs? If not.....

by Leander in

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when did you leave?.

what prompted you to doubt/leave the organization?.

for those who are still active, do you plan on leaving soon?

justhuman

There many things that some of us are still active JW. Personally I believe the most hard of all is family ties.

My personal experience shows that is a very painfull procedure. Although I tried to find my way out, still, I can't just walk away. What I decided to do is just going at the Sunday meeting only, and I just report field service 1-2 hours a month. I'm sure that by leaving WT I will cause more problems to my elderly parents, and then my wife. I tried to reason with them, like the matters of organ transplants, and Rutherfords stupid beleives, didn't work out.

I do still believe in God and Jesus although I do not accept the Old Testement completly. My research showed to me the following, and you can check for yourselves:

1.Human history is thousand years old not only 6000 years as the W.T.
says.
2. Ancient record tablets show that the Egyptians go back in written history 7000 years, China the same, and Greeks at least 10,000 years.
There are in the Greek Orphean Records astronomical Observations, that they are going at back at least 12.000 of history. So the question is: How Greeks knew all these observations if they weren't present to see them?

Also in Greek mythology if I can name it like that, shows that they were 3 world wide floods, not one as the bible says. This floods were as a result of the melting of the ice, and the earths axes have been declined the way they are know. That is why in the Orphean records, and in Hommers Odysea, and Eliada, we have only two seasons not four. Greeks knew the earth was round long before the Bible statement that is why have Greek Ancient ships and vessels in the Amazon river. We have the same writting that the Greeks were using before 7000 years ago it is found in the Inkas civilazation, and in many other places in the world.

And another question: if the pyramids were build 100 years before the Flood how can they remain with out any damage since the flood covered all the earth. And how is possible in only 1500 after Adam to have this kind of Civilazation.

Also I couldn't accept the fact that God choose Israel to be His people. What kind of God orders the slauttering of every living
soul in one place, and in the other place kill all males and keep the females for reproduction? doesn't make sense does it. The history of Israel was a very violent one, and still is. And the Watchtoweer follows the same pattern. Believe us or if you don't DIE.

Hope that I have helped you with my tips.

justhuman

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From The C.O.'s Lips

by Mister Biggs in

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a talk about love from thurday, january 3rd.

a portion of his talk (which i taped) regarding the 1st century congregation, verbatim:.

"...there would be needs to be met, physical needs.

justhuman

The hypocrires at Brooklyn all they care is their money and fortune. Jesus said to the reach man sell all of your belongings and give it to the poor.

Since the "END"is so near why don't you sell what you have and give to the poor ones in USA, Africa, and other countries? Or maybe is not so near...
That is why you build luxure buildings for you, theaters that cost millions to renovate, like the one in New York the Stanley,with roofs that have clouds and stars and sun. Does really your loving God needs all this crap?

How long you do you think people will believe you? You have ruin my life and many others with your lies. That all you gave us...lies...almost about everything just to build your empire...

I guess that is why Jesus said that there will be false prophets, and you are one of them. I know that you are looking at the "apostate sides" to see what is happening, and this is my message to you:

I know you are afraid.
You are afraid of us
You are afraid of changing
We are not here to tell you how is going to End..
We are here to tell you how is going to begin.
A world with no boundaries, a world with out you.

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NEWS: I am publicly reproved over UN situation.

by badwillie in

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my wife and i met with 3 elders for a "judicial hearing".. our crime: simply put, was talking.

i showed a friend the un website where the wts was listed as an ngo which then led to a 2 hour discussion of various doubts that we both have had.

my wife also showed a friend the un thing but also discussed with her a first hand account of a pedophile cover-up that we knew about in our former congregation.

justhuman

Unfrotunately, like many of us who tried to show the mistakes of the WT, faced the same thread: Close your mouth or you are out of the club. Dirt and corraption lies over the WT, or God's "channel".

This old men in the ivory buildings in Brooklyn, they know for more than 25 years that Jerusalem was not distroyed in 607 BC but in 587BC and they keep this lie because all they care it's their possition. People died for their false doctrines and believes, lifes have been destroyed.

Now they are ridding the red beast, UN and even join with cults like them "Mormons, Unification Church etc" in order to guard their intersts, in club in Italy named CESNUR.

I would like to use the same words, that our Lord Jesus said to the religious leaders of his time.

Strange isn't it were we can find a fulfilment for this words in our days? The governing body has skiped this words and cannot find the fulfilment in our days, while can find second - third fullfilment in allmost every verse of the Bible !!!

Maybe Jesus can help us with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 23 the entire chapter.

23:4 And they prepare heavy and oppressive purdens, for other men's shoulders, but they will not move them with their finger.

The minimum requirements for the GB is 20 hours a week. Does it look light burden to you?

23:14 Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut the Kingdom of heavens against men, neither enter yourselves, nor permit those aproaching to enter.

Who has decided that only 144000 go to heaven?

23:33 Serpents progeny of vipers, how can you escape the judgement of the Gehenna.

WT had and has heard us very badly. We have an obligation for the future victims to help them. Now the GB will use as always the world's events(war Afganistan) as a fullfilment of the last days, and people must join their organization so that they can be saved from Armageddon.Victims of the WT will be caught at this hysteria.

We must not allow this to happened, because the GB are false prophets and in Deuteronomy 18:22 says that we must not afraid of the false prophet.

Jesus is the Eternal Light

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WELL WORTH READING: JW's + 144,000

by stevieb1 in

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found this material on an yahoo egroups site on greek theology on which quite a number of witness apologists contribute.

there is quite a bit of interesting stuff on here, but here is a worthwhile comment made on the 144,000 as they relate to the "fds class" and jw's since 1879. establishes from purely mathematical point of view that the 144,000 cannot be a literal but figurative.

quote:.

justhuman

There are many thinks that shows that the great multitude are in heavens. Specially when you read the Greek Bible(not the NWT that is not a translation) and I really don't understand how can the WT society made 21.000 Greeks to believe that they on earth.

The following scriptures show that they are in heaven:
Rev. 1:4 The Sprits are in before of the throne(ENOPION TOU THRONOY)
Rev. 4:5 Lamps in before of the throne(ENOPION TOU THRONOU)
Rev. 4:10 Elders before the throne (ENOPION TOU THRONOU)
Rev. 7:11 Elders four beasts before the throne (ENOPION TOU THRONOU)
Rev. 7:15, 8:3, 9:13, 11:16 14:3-5, same thought before the throne

Rev.6:9-11 White robes( LEFKES STOLES a uniform for priest or for temple service)was given to everyone of them.
Rev.7:9-15 Great Multitude wearing white robes(LEFKES STOLES)are in the temple(NAOS-the inner of the temple)standing before God(ENOPION THEOY)and they serve Him.See for temple also Math. 21:12, Mark 11:15

Rev 11: 1-2 To measure the temple(Naos) and those who worship in it but the court without the temple measure not it is given to Gentiles

Rev. 19:1 Great voice of Multitude IN HEAVEN

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What are the most stupid JW rule?

by beroea in

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what are the most stupid jw rule?.

what do you consider to be the most stupid rules or tradition of the jw lives?

im thinking about any kind of rule or regulative that only has one answer to the questions why:.

justhuman

OK! You all got it WRONG!!!!!!!!
Didn`t you know that the Holy Ghost ooops the Holy Spirit "composed"
all the rules and manifested them to CO`s, PO`s, etc etc?
And didn`t you know CO`s-PO`s-Elders most favourite scripture from the Bible? (1 Samuel 15:22)
And didn`t you know that scriptures like Matt. 9:13 or James 1:27 (except the last sentence of course) are not "PRACTICAL" for our days?

So, why complain?????????????????

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Staying awake during the Watchtower study

by drahcir yarrum in

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here's a question i always wanted answered during the years i was a witness.

what's the best way to stay awake during the watchtower study?

oh, furthermore, what's the best way to stay awake during any witness "snooze-a-thon" brainwashing session?

justhuman

.....
21. Look for subliminals in the artwork of that WT issue - you can always bring the "Live forever" book along for help, if needed!
( Caution: don`t get caught turning the WT upside-down... that could give suspicions to the elders! oh, sorry, Elders! )

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