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  WT Controlling Statements About Missing Meetings,Worldly Parent's, Etc.

  by flipper in

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  most of us know having been out of the witnesses that one of the dastardly techniques they use in controlling members is to keep them so busy engaged in other activities that there is absolutely no time to pursue normal family interests or hobbies.

  one of the lurking witness friends on the board sent me some quotes from a recent book study.

  look at these quotes and see how controlling the watchtower society is becoming.

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  justhuman

  Great staff Mr. Flipper....I recall when I had to work 3 jobs (I was working in a delivery section of sanitary ware, I had a cleaning company, and playing guitar in a band for the weekends)in order to make it through. I do not consider my self greedy person, or a person who loves money. But, I had to work hard(and still do)since the needs of the family are more in this world we are living. I'm not talking about having lobsters of haviar, for dinner. I'm talking for the basic needs.

  In my case it was a combination of events:

  1.Family has grown, more mouths to feed.

  2. I have discovered the truth about "truth"

  3.I was really shit finnancialy since I've spend many years preaching the "good news"

  Any how I had frequent visits from the elders since I have stoped going to meetings. I asked them "who will feed my family?.Who will pay the rent?" I understand the need for the meetings(ok I was bullshitting here)but I 'm in a terrible finnancial condition. My problems are NOW. and NOW I need to work hard to face them".

  They nevered answer to those questions. All they used to answer it was that we are living in the last days and Satan is using the system to put more preasure upon us.

  One time I was really pissed off by one of the elders who said to me that my attitude will lead my small childern(age 1 and 3 at that time) to DIE in Armageddon!!! I hardly managed to control my temper(have in mind the Mediterraneans are hot tempered) Such an asshole...he was using my small childern to make me go to their shitty meetings...

  When I was young and I was supposed to study,get a digree, WT was forbitting us for more education...some, under the guidance of the WT left school and became pioneers because the end was so near.. We have stayed uneducated in a very competative world. Now we are paying for our "submission"to "God's Organization" with low payed jobs, and no skills.

  Man I hate WT with all of my existence...bloody false prophets
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  Little Joseph needs our prayers,please read this....

  by justhuman in

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  a tragic event happened to 2 year old joseph.

  the house was on fire and he was in his bedroom.

  2 firemen risk their lifes, entered to the flaming house and resqued little joseph.

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  I thank you all, from my heart for your prayers.....

  This is what humans are for...to care for one another, to show love. That is why I knew in this forum I would find power to strengthen the possitive thoughts for little Joseph. The universal law of love has overcome everything once again

  Thank you all,and may God bless you
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  *** Favorite Kick A$$ Songs of All Time ***

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  buddy miles, may he rest in peace.

  i like the band of gypsys version, but i prefer the later version he did with the buddy miles express.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7vgdqwfc9g&feature=related.

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  SHOW MUST GO ON....

  by QUEEN
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  Why hasn't there ever been or ever be a mass exodus from the WTS?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the wts have a history of false prophecies, including teachings that armageddon and the end of the world would occur in 1914, 1918, 1925, and 1975. .

  most of us didn't see that the true point of authority was not the bible, but the watchtower magazine, awake magazine,ministry school and the ever-changing views of the governing body.

  the word of god in the bible does not change and a prophecy that does not come true is not of god's doing.

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  justhuman

  It depends how do you define mass exodus...if you believe that in the next year report will show one million JW less, then that is a fantasy. In the past years we had occasions of huge numbers that left WT, and in my case I hardly recall 1975, since I was only 8. There are previous posts that show huge numbers leaving the WT in 1925-30. Even in the recent year you can see that tens of thousands are leaving, or becoming innactive.

  I have made a reasearch from the years 1996-2005 in this subject with the following outcome:

  a)In 1996 WT shows peak publishers of 5,167,258

  b)From 1996-2005 we had a total of baptisms 2,967,901 almost 3 millions got baptized

  c) Also in 1996 JW's reported 4,855,030 bible studies. Since the WT reports only the publishers end not the Baptized JW's, from the Bible studies we have a big number that they were JW's children. I would say, having in mind my cong that 20% of the bible studies are JW's children. So the 20% of the 5,167,258 is about 4,320,000 baptized JW's. So if we add the number of the baptized publishers in 1996, and the number of those that got baptized from 1996-2005, we have the total number of 8,784,000 puplishers in 2005 adding and the 20% of the unbaptized JW's .

  d) But we must also have in mind that from 1996-2005 we had an increase in the Bible studies from 4,855,030 in 1996 to 6,061,046 in 2005. So we have 1,200,000 more bible studies, and a huge number of them supposed to get baptized. (The rate of 1% dead it is balanced with the rates of birth, although this is not and the most correct calculation)

  Conclusion:In the year 2005 JW's should be more that 10 Millions world wide.

  The WT to be more correct in their figures they should report every year the number of the:

  1.Total Publishers

  2.Number of unbaptized publishers

  3.Number of baptized ones

  4.Number of disfellowshiped ones

  5.Number of innactive ones

  But for sure this is a joke since WT is hidding the actual figures because they really scare to show the dicrease they have to the remaining faithfull JW's. The increase of the WT is a plasmatic and not real, having in mind the earths expanding rate births and population

  So as you see from the figures above there is a mass exodus from the WT, it just takes some calculation to find this out
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  Going to Church

  by excito-are in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i went to church in my local town while the witnesses attended the perth assembly.

  it was a good sermon and i actually felt very upbuilt and refreshed after listening to it.

  i really thought i would of felt guilt or some negative feeling for doing this, but quite the opposite.

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  I know the feeling!!! My first time I went to the Orthodox Apostolic Church I was crying. All I was listening it was the Gloryfication of Jesus.In the Orthodox Church the ceremony is in the old Greek language, and the Church uses the Original Greek Texts in the Church. Then I realize how poor my spirituality was in the WT world. In the Church we praise Jesus and God, and we are asking their forgiveness since we are all sinners. It is our faith in Jesus that saves us. Thats all it takes. In the Church I never listen condemning other dominations, or accusing the "apostates". In fact there is a prayer that asks from Jesus to show the way back to the Apostolic Church all those who left the faith, and ask from Him to show forgiveness. Can you imagine that happening in the WT?

  You will find a spiritual treasure in the real world, and you are the one who will make the choice what to accept or not.
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  Little Joseph needs our prayers,please read this....

  by justhuman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a tragic event happened to 2 year old joseph.

  the house was on fire and he was in his bedroom.

  2 firemen risk their lifes, entered to the flaming house and resqued little joseph.

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  justhuman

  A tragic event happened to 2 year old Joseph. The house was on fire and he was in his bedroom. 2 Firemen risk their lifes, entered to the flaming house and resqued little Joseph. He wasn't burned at all, but he was in coma when they resqued him. The Fireman took his personal oxygene mask and give to the child,since he had no breath. As soon as they came out they started CPR. His heart started to bit again. There is 4 days that he is in the hospital and he still in a critical condition. Little Joseph's parents are asking everyone to send a prayer. It doesn't matter if we are Christians, Muslims, Budhists. They are asking our prayer.

  Everybody in our Island we are praying for little Joseph. So I'm asking my friends in this forum to say a prayer tonight, so that Joseph will recover and be well again. I know many of you will respond to my request, since in the times of hardship we have our chance to show are HUMAN emotions for those who suffer, besides we are justhumans and we need God in our life

  Thank you all

  justhuman
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  Nov 15 WT - stumbled over a teaching? There's no where else to go!!!

  by truthseeker in

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  i just read the nov 15, wt - what a laugh.. so they admit some leave over their teachings and then they say there's no where else to go.

  what a joke - they are liars.. .

  was it a problem with a teaching?.

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  justhuman

  That is an incredible article!!! NO PLACE TO GO??? Perhaps they should ask all those millions of ex-JW's that left WT behind and have a new life. A life without fear, and guild, and the pressure of the WT cult that if we do not preach the "good news(selling their magazines) we will die in Armageddon.....

  Indeed many of us found a LOT OF PLACES. Either some they became Christians, or any other religion, we found OUR SELVES, and we only trust Our Creator that is loving God. Boy they are blind guides and all they want to do it is to keep their followers into the blind state...

  You shall know the truth and the truth WILL SET YOU FREE
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  Notes from Annual Meeting, October 2008

  by FadingAway in

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  just got in email a few minutes ago...... note, there are three different sets of notes, they may seem repetitive but please read all three as some notes may have left out things where other notes added other points......... .

  annual report .

  the holy spirit is just jumping off of me!

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  justhuman

  Thanks for the notes...I really, really laugh at the part were they said "there is nothing more greater thing for a human being to become a JW".......

  Perhaps they should ask all the ex-JW's in the world this question....the Greater, the Grand Mommentum, the Utlimate act it is to LEAVE JW's...
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  Is The WT Society Getting Financially Desperate ? Nov.15th WT Your Take ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as most of us know on the board - awhile back the watchtower society printed a brochure called : "charitable planning to benefit kingdom service worldwide.

  " it was written to provide info to witnesses on a variety of ways that gifts may be made to the society presently or at death.

  i have a lurking witness friend on the board who sent me the nov. 15th watchtower and it has an article entitled, " ways in which some choose to give ".

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  justhuman

  For sure they are Mr. Flipper...THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY and this is just GREAT......
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  Ex Jehovah's Witnesses, Why Did You Leave The Watchtower?

  by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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  my new question at yahoo answers: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081009225436aanewp1.

  please add your reason..

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  justhuman

  That is sad story cofee-black