Posts by unshackled

it's sad too say that all of us good people that believed in a happy ending through justice that god would protect us, is a false promise, it us mere humans that make our lives and however we chose to lives this is our lot, no mystic new order or paradise earth, we make our own destiny!!!.

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the star tiger.

unshackled

I look back on JW life as thinking you were on a Magic Carpet Ride. You were on a one-way track to ultimate bliss. All things will be take care of. Then you wake up. BOOM! No magic carpet, no one-way track to perfection in paradise, just bullshit and lies. Swallowed that pill and still crapping it out....but what a relieving cleanse!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxFu7taftE

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what was the worst meeting you ever attended ?

by man in black in

here's mine :.

back in the early 90's we went to the sunday talk and wt study.. lo and behold, a friend from the 70's who was df'ed ( he had just been reinstated) was there along with his parents.

i had no idea that they would have been there.. one of my kids was getting sick, so my wife and i were up-down the entire meeting walking him around.

unshackled

Guess it would have to be the meeting where they announced me being DF'd. I look back on it now differently, but at the time, it was a miserable experience. That sticks out because I remember the feelings of being an outcast. An utter failure. I grew up in that KH, knew most people for many many years. Seeing friends, and old-time friends of my parents crying tore a hole in my heart. Thought I was dead to everything I knew.

I did get reinstated within a year. But eventually, a few years later, began my fade away. But that meeting was tough and the months after.

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Do you feel spiritual and what defines it for you?

by unshackled in

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(i'm sure this has been covered on here at some point...but seeing that the membership is constantly shifting, let's do it again.).

so i don't mean spiritual as in belief in the supernatural or relating to religion, though doesn't exclude that either.

but more so in the broader sense...the stuff that affects the human spirit, what moves you, what adds meaning to your life?.

unshackled

Awesome...great cause. Volunteering is something I know I don't do enough of, brings many deep satisfaction.

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Do you feel spiritual and what defines it for you?

by unshackled in

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friends

(i'm sure this has been covered on here at some point...but seeing that the membership is constantly shifting, let's do it again.).

so i don't mean spiritual as in belief in the supernatural or relating to religion, though doesn't exclude that either.

but more so in the broader sense...the stuff that affects the human spirit, what moves you, what adds meaning to your life?.

unshackled

(I'm sure this has been covered on here at some point…but seeing that the membership is constantly shifting, let's do it again.)

So I don't mean spiritual as in belief in the supernatural or relating to religion, though doesn't exclude that either. But more so in the broader sense…the stuff that affects the human spirit, what moves you, what adds meaning to your life?

Guess I would define my spirituality in the sense of reverence for nature and being "one" with nature: appreciating our place amongst all life on earth, the incredible path of our evolution, our cousinship with all animals, my bond with my dog, appreciating an amazing sunset, complete awe at the massive scope of the universe, the power and beauty of the ocean, a towering redwood, wonderment of the stars. Not sure that defines it completely but it's a start.

In what sense do you feel spiritual, what defines it for you?

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A lightning fast POLL: Two questions about CONVERSION

by Terry in

1. were you yourself converted from a religion other than jw to becoming a jw by door to door work?.

2.did you succeed in converting somebody in your own door to door work causing them to change religions to the point of baptism?.

quick answers, please.. .

unshackled

1. Nope...born in.

2. Nope...not a good salesmen.

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Why I no longer believe the Bible is "God's Word" and I no longer believe in "God"

by lifeisgood in

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i became a christain at the age of 9. not by going to a church or asking a preacher to baptize me, or anything like that.

i started reading my mother's king james bible cover to cover at the age of 8. my father was very abusive and when he was abusing me, i would close my eyes and pray.

i never hated my father, which is one good thing i got out of prayer.. when i turned 13 i became a lay preacher and traveled, on my own, preaching in any church that would let me.. when i was 15 i studied with the jws and was baptized after four months of study.. i was a zealous christain but not a zealous jw, according to them.

unshackled

Especially since that seems American, and I am Canadian:)

Cool...same here. Knew there was something about the way you carried yourself on here. So polite! lol

So while I am often in disagreement with much of organized religion, it is still something that I am quick to respond to, because of my faith and love for God and Christ... and hopefully, truth about them.

Fair enough. For me I think it comes down to a disdain for organized religion, so the term "religion" is ruined for me. Religion = organized religion. But don't take issue with ones such as yourself who are spiritual - beliefs without connection to organized religion.

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Do you get hassled for posting here frequently?

by sabastious in

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most people in my life that know how frequent i post on this forum find it very troubling.

i have often been accused of "not being able to let go.

" i don't agree that i post here because i'm not willing to let go, i think i post here because i think this place helps other people and i want to be part of it.

unshackled

If I post the thread usually dies... I find that if you are not well known on here then people usually don't give you the time of day, kind of like in the borg, social cliques.

Momma-Tossed-Me...I'm fairly new here too, but can't agree with that. Especially " people usually don't give you the time of day". Sure there are "old-timers" that would know eachother well and share some closer connections.

From my experience, there are some very genuine and warm people on here. Some very intelligent, some not. Some crazy, some...less crazy (lol). Some can be rude or insensitive, some communicate and express themselves with kindness. It takes all kinds, and this forum is no different.

Don't take this the wrong way....but I'd suggest looking at yourself. Wonder if you feel that way is because the way you manage your expectations.

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Do you get hassled for posting here frequently?

by sabastious in

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friends

most people in my life that know how frequent i post on this forum find it very troubling.

i have often been accused of "not being able to let go.

" i don't agree that i post here because i'm not willing to let go, i think i post here because i think this place helps other people and i want to be part of it.

unshackled

My wife is the only person I really talk to about JW crap. She never grew up a JW or ever was one, so it gets hard for her sometimes to understand. But no pressure to not go on here.

This forum helps me deal with the issues and there's the sense of community. Some days I think being on here too much only perpetuates the frustration, but mostly it is therapeutic. Having no one else really to talk I need this forum...and you guys.

So thanks to you all. Maybe someday I won't need this place...but today I do.