Hey BD, wanna hear something REALLY scary....Im the elder who gave a talk at your hall last week. Im one of "you"....
Apostates...they're everywhere but you can't see 'em!
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The Bible - is it really the GOOD Book - if so why?
by cantleave inafterall , it condones murder, genocide, infanticide and a plethora of other nasty things.
it is contradictory and unscientific.. hell; lets be honest it's hard to read and harder to understand.. so why is it called the good book?.
discuss!.
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I believe the paper the NWT is printed on, makes good spliffs.
LOL cantleave. You beat me to it. When I was still in I had a friend (who was never baptised and fringe) tell me him and his buddies had used NWT pages to roll spliffs.
At the time I thought it was disrespectful. Now...well, that was just pure resourceful genius. The pages of Revelation would probably give a trippy high.
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All time best Western movie themes
by sinis inhere are my favorites:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyrjh0edlss&feature=player_embedded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iterkvrkfa&feature=player_embedded.
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Don't forget Sergio Leon's flicks, Good/Bad/Ugly, Fistful of Dollars, Few Dollars More, and Once Upon A Time In The West.
Miz wins...that is the only right answer to this.
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I particularly like the high end production quality.
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Dumb illustration
by MrFreeze injw's have the tendency to come up with the worst illustrations.
it boggles my mind sometimes.
here's one someone gave me about new light.. when confronted with the fact that since certain teachings change, the jw's never had the truth.
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Another illustration they like to use when it comes to "how did life get here" is the "if you came across a house in a field, would you think it happened by chance?" ...or the "every watch has a designer" rubbish.
Not exclusive to JWs...but they love to use it over and over. "What do you think? Did life happen by flying out of a monkey's butt? Or was it created?"
No it didn't fly out of a monkey's butt.....but that's not the only other possible option.
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Dumb illustration
by MrFreeze injw's have the tendency to come up with the worst illustrations.
it boggles my mind sometimes.
here's one someone gave me about new light.. when confronted with the fact that since certain teachings change, the jw's never had the truth.
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That indeed is an asinine illustration, Freeze. In print I think this one is a bad one for their explanation of New Light. Think it is from the Proclaimers book...
"Jehovah has always led his people to clearer understanding of his will. (Ps. 43:3) Just how he has guided them may be illustrated this way: If a person has been in a dark room for a long period of time, is it not best if he is exposed to light gradually? Jehovah has exposed his people to the light of truth in a similar manner; he has enlightened them progressively. (Compare John 16:12, 13.) It has been as the proverb says: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.”—Prov. 4:18."
They are comparing the affect of literal bright light to a pair of physical eyes that would indeed have a hard time adjusting from dark. So they are saying that god doesn't think his people could handle "truth" all at once. For what, their protection?
If truths are revealed in "new light" for the protection and aid of his people, then why the delay with the blood issue? Not revealing the ability to use parts of blood to his people sooner, Jehovah needlessly allowed countless ones to die. That is the opposite of lovingly revealing truths.
This is like throwing that person stuck in a dark room into the daylight immediately. Then, after some time, giving him some sunglasses.
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Was the GB scared by pew research on religion? (statistics)
by JonathanH inlooking at pew research data on jws (link below if you want to check it out, it's interesting to compare stats.
), you have to wonder if the gb has seen them and what they think about them.
it would seem to me examining the statistics that there are far more witnesses on the inside that don't really believe it is the "truth" than many on the inside would assume.
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Here are some JW highlights pulled from the Pew study. I've noted where they stood amongst the other religions polled. BTW..there are no surprises.
Going through it, there was some interesting spots where Mormons and JWs where so similar. But diverged when it came to things like family happiness, standard of living, and personal safety from crime - Mormons finished much higher.
Your standard of living – what you can buy or do:
JWs - 32% Very satisfied (2nd lowest)Satisfied with family life:JWs - 69% Very satisfied (2nd lowest)
Your personal safety from things like crime and terrorism:
JWs - 18% Very satisfied (lowest)Homosexuality is a way of life that should be accepted by society:
JWs - 12% Completely agree (lowest)Feel that my values are threatened by Hollywood and the entertainment industry:
JWs - 32% Completely agree (2nd highest)There are clear and absolute standards for what is right and wrong:
JWs - 55% Completely agree (highest)Evolution is the best explanation for the origins of human life on earth:
JW - 3% Completely agree (lowest)When it comes to questions of right and wrong, which of the following do you look to most for guidance?
JWs - 73% Religious teachings and beliefs (highest)
JWs - 3% Philosophy and reason (lowest) -
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To My Fellow Atheists...
by Pika_Chu ini present to you:.
quite possibly the worst attempt at apologetics ever.... .
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/nogod.html.
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I tried Pika Chu...can't get thru it. It is like cotton candy for the brain, and I hate cotton candy.
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Hello
by Chariklo ini am new to this site, just finding my way around.. i've been studying with jw's for about 15 months.
i'm an unbaptised publisher, and until recently never missed a meeting, have been out "on the service" quite a lot.
i've been having difficulties with one of the jw's studying with me and something happened which was just unacceptable.
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Welcome Chariklo. Consider those great points by leavingwt.
My two cents...leaving the JW religion was the single best thing I've ever done for myself. Despite losing some family and friends. Think about it.
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