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  Were you 'alive in '75' and how was that year for you?

  by punkofnice in

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  2. experiences

  i was a junior borgite in 1975. i remeber looking at the calendar at work in october and thinking: 'armageddon isn't here yet.....and it doesn't feel like it will be here anytime soon either!'.

  i was surprised that jehovah hadn't obeyed the superior command to bring the big 'a' as instructed to him by fred franz.

  how dare god disobey the jw leader!!!!!.

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  bigmac

  well put, Fink--ive borrowed that for elsewhere
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  ex-jw-uk

  by bigmac in

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  2. friends

  i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.

  i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?

  i've already found several by reading older posts..

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  bigmac

  bumped for oneoutallout
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  Do you know me? Nigel Chatfield

  by Oneoutallout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure if this is the done thing but, is there anyone on here that knows me and is out of the cult??

  i'm from surrey, uk.

  feel free to pm me etc if you feel comfortable making contact again.

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  bigmac

  hello 1-out. i take it phiz knows you to use 1st names.

  quite a few on here in the south of england--i'm on the i o wight

  heres alnk to some other UK members:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/197364/1/ex-jw-uk#.UuvSUT1_vwo
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  Disrupting literature carts

  by perfect1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am ready for a little guerilla warfare (no one gets hurt, of course).

  but these literature carts in the city need to go.

  everytime i walk by its all i can do to keep from knocking the thing over.. any ideas on how to destroy their little stash of paper.. so far my best idea is water, pouring water all over it.

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  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO leave them as they are-=-it means less doorknockers

  ive seen one near my address--on a windswept deserted seafront--with 2 old guys freezing to death--only me took any notice.

  so--who pays for any literature taken?
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  Literature carts are the cruisiest way to preach ever - photo attached

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was a perfect spring day, and a jazz band were playing in the mall near my work.

  in front of the band, two watchtower literature carts stood in solidarity.

  i could not work out who were the jws attending them.

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  bigmac

  its passive witnessing.

  site one of these carts in a town centre--its OK to assume sooner or later everyone in town will have seen it--and helped themselves if they want

  multiply this by every town in a country.

  ok--so by now everyone in that countyry has been witnessed to--and made their decision

  OK god--over to you--bring it on
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  interview with an apostate: BIGMAC

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. .i'm 65---divorced--3 grown up kids--7 ish grandchildren.

  were you a born in or a convert?.

  .not born in--dragged into it----aged 9--- by my late mother.

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  Tell us a little about yourself and your family.

  .i'm 65---divorced--3 grown up kids--7 ish grandchildren

  Were you a born in or a convert?

  .not born in--dragged into it----aged 9--- by my late mother

  Are your parents / family JWs?

  .my father (93) is---my late mother was

  my 1st wife is--2 of my 3 kids are.

  How many generations have been JWs?

  .on my 1st wife,s side---5 generations.: her grandmother; her mother; herself; our children; our grandchildren

  Did you hold any position in the WTS? (MS, Elder etc...)

  .as a teenager---regular pionerer--MS--( magazines/ territory ) this was in the late 60's

  Did you *really* believe in the bible, in spirits (angels, demons)?

  .i was frightened of the demunz as a boy--used to have nightmares.. but i never believed in god / afterlife

  Did you get baptised? When and why?

  .age 14--because my dad was getting dipped--plus several other congegation brat pack mates were. i didnt want to be left out

  What was the initial trigger that made you start questioning things?

  .1971--i was now 23--my wife was preg with our 1st----i knew i would readily agree to blood if it were needed.

  Where did you find information? Internet sites? Books?

  .didnt need to--it was all in my head

  How difficult or painful was the process of leaving?

  .easy. i had already thrown my ministry briefcase in a river whilst out door knocking one sunday--a few weeks before i resigned

  Was it a big dramatic exit or a careful quiet fade?

  .i was supposed to do the public talk that day---but i went to see the cong servant ( roy quilter--ex district servant--or similar title )--told him i was quitting--that was that--job done

  Did you convince anyone else to leave with you?

  .i didnt

  How were your family relations affected by your decision?

  .wife was very upset. my mother was too--but i knew she expected it

  Were you or are you still being shunned by those who didn't leave?

  .2 of my 3 kids havent spoken to me in--30--years--? ive got grandchildren ive never met--dont even know their names. some live within 4 miles of me.

  How long have you now been out?

  .i resigned in 71--severed final links in 81

  Was there anything you looked forward to doing when you left?

  .after 1981. i became a serial philanderer

  What are you most proud of achieving since you left?

  .see above--LOL

  Is there anything you miss about life in the congregation?

  .the christian fellowship. Bwaa haaaa haaaa haaaa

  Red pill or blue pill? Do you regret waking up to reality at all?

  .ive no idea what red/blue pill means. dont want to either

  Did you become an atheist or transfer your faith elsewhere?

  .i was born atheist

  How do you now feel about religion in general?

  .no interest whatsover

  Do you feel any guilt celebrating xmas or birthdays or doing any other JW "no-no"s?

  .i dont celebrate--i'm too mean to buy cards or gifts

  Have you attended any face-to-face meetups of ex-JWs?

  .yes--several

  Describe your circle of friends - mostly other ex-JWs or regular people?

  .i have no friends--nobody likes me. neither do i

  Do you tell people about your JW past?

  .yes--if i think it will shock or provoke a reaction

  Do you feel animosity or pity toward current JWs?

  .neither--i just think they are stupid

  How do you respond to witnesses when they call at your door?

  .they dont

  Storm the barricades or tend to the wounded? (do you favor activism or support)

  .i fantasize about dynamiting the local halls--but when they are closed

  What do you think is the most effective approach to reaching people still in?

  .let them discover the nonsense for themselves

  Do you think the WTS can or should be destroyed, will continue on as-is or grow / change?

  .i wish it would be--but i think it will grow--in the third world .

  the blood doctrine is going through a change. it will go the way of the 7000 years.

  How has your life been impacted by your JW past?

  .losing my kids--need i say more?

  Are there things in your life you blame the WTS for?

  .loss of family----and its ongoing--my jw 1st wife now shuns our older son--hes d/f'd

  JW upbringing - a protection or a curse?

  .protection from what??--real life--?? a real curse

  How do you fill your time now it's not filled with meetings and field service?

  .i'm retired--spend way too much time on the net

  Do you still have an interest in JW beliefs and doctrines?

  .only an idle curiosity about what new rubbish is flavour of the month

  How much of your time is still spent on JW related matters?

  .too much time on here--but it beats TV

  What do you think of the ex-JW community?

  .ive met some great people in the UK--many on here--and on various facebook xj sites--i'm Stan Livedeath on FB--look me up.

  Do you see yourself still being associated with the ex-JW community in 5 or 10 years time?

  .i'm 66 next month. i hope to have left all this behind me--if i live that long

  Do you fear the future?

  .nope--i had a heart attack age 48--every day is a bonus

  What advice would you give to anyone starting the journey of leaving the WTS?

  .it depends on how much they value their jw friends and family---but realistically i dont think it matters one bit if they stay put and waste their time going through the motions waiting for armageddon to come. we will all be long gone before that happens. if it keeps your family intact--just grin and bear it--MOST DO__NOTHING NEW THERE.

  What would you change in your life if you could go back and talk to yourself?

  .i would try not to make so many mistakes this time.

  Do you have any regrets about life since you left?

  .made a few bad decisions---but--no regrets--just the learning curve

  Can we read your life-story anywhere? (links to online or books)

  .why on earth would anyone want to--??

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  Interview with an apostate. Punkofnice AKA Paul Jackson

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i got married to another cult member and we have 3 children who are all grown up now.

  the 2 boys are not interested in the jw cult (thank goodness).

  when i left the disgusting cult my wife left me.. were you a born in or a convert?.

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  bigmac

  good read punk. i did start my interview a few weeks back--but even i lost interest lol
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  Were you 'alive in '75' and how was that year for you?

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a junior borgite in 1975. i remeber looking at the calendar at work in october and thinking: 'armageddon isn't here yet.....and it doesn't feel like it will be here anytime soon either!'.

  i was surprised that jehovah hadn't obeyed the superior command to bring the big 'a' as instructed to him by fred franz.

  how dare god disobey the jw leader!!!!!.

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  bigmac

  i must have missed this thread 2 years ago.

  of course 75 was thoroughly promoted from the late 60's onwards. i had left the cult in 71. no way did i believe the 75 nonsense. in fact--my born -in wife and i started our second baby that summer---deliberately. our son--born april 76--is now 37--recently married--and long gone from the cult. he was d/f'd a few years back--which means his mother now shuns him.

  its interesting how many posters on here--2 years ago--no longer do. i wonder what happened to them.
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  Hongkong billionaire offers $147,000,000 to man who can turn his daughter str8

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an interesting and novel incident.

  the billionaire's daughter has been married to another woman for 9 years (legally).

  but the father refuses to accept that his daughter doesn't want to marry a man and has just doubled the cash reward to a successful suitor to $147,000,000.. background:.

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  she needs a simple surgical procedure

  a strappadichtome.
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  Did You Ever Learn Anything From The Meetings?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i found the meetings to be especially boring from the late 1980s on.

  before that, we actually tried to make people want to listen.

  the meetings were pretty interesting.

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  bigmac

  i learned how to sleep--sat up--with my eyes open

  and to fart --silently