@cantleave: 8pm for sure; i need to think up something lively.
re psalm 83:18--who was this actually addressed to?
so, kingdom hall not mentioned?---what about " church"
the phrase "jehovah's witness" not mentioned--how about "christian"
i'm hoping to get clarity on a few points, but please, don't think i'm too lazy to do my own research: i do not have a bible in my house.. or the koran.
or the book of mormon.
or a copy of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (unfortunately ).
@cantleave: 8pm for sure; i need to think up something lively.
re psalm 83:18--who was this actually addressed to?
so, kingdom hall not mentioned?---what about " church"
the phrase "jehovah's witness" not mentioned--how about "christian"
i'm hoping to get clarity on a few points, but please, don't think i'm too lazy to do my own research: i do not have a bible in my house.. or the koran.
or the book of mormon.
or a copy of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (unfortunately ).
i'm hoping to get clarity on a few points, but please, don't think i'm too lazy to do my own research: i do not have a bible in my house.
or the Koran
or the book of mormon
or a copy of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (unfortunately )
OK here goes
Where in the bible does it mention " the kingdom hall"
or the actual phrase " jehovah's witness"
how about "theocratic minstry school"
just for starters
some people say "hovah' "jehoovah", etc.
or they'll say instead of jehovah's witnesses, "hovies"....etc.. do you think that it's appropriate?.
but surely as the word " jehovah" is a man-made-up word, totally meaningless to an atheist like me, what does it matter if you abbreviate/slangify it?
people have used " jah" "jove"--you name it --for years; so far, i'm not aware of anyone being struck down dead for it.
however , if you're the sort to worry about others sensibilities, then a bit of common sense could be applied.
i had wondered what the giant bartender in the sky would make of us mere earthlings squabbling about what to call him.
in my anger as an ex witness about 4 years ago i really wished that this would happen.
although the glaring errors, hypocrisy & downright badness of the wts was finally evident to me personally, others whom i had expeced to eventually leave the org have not.. i think it dawned on me around 1 or 2 years ago that my wife will never leave the witnesses.
having presented in both heated & reasonable debate every kind of logical argument against the religions teachings the conversations would get to the point where she would simply refuse to answer my questions.
i wonder what will come first--the collapse of the WTS or armageddon?
neither in my lifetime
am i bothered?---no, & haven't been for 30 years now.
apart from a member of the gb of course.... i've personly seen a brother gesturing so much he sent the mic stand flying!.
another who opened his mouth to speak and burped loudly into the mic instead!.
any others?.
1: this one i heard about;
birmingham, UK, late 1960's.
during a public talk, a brother fell asleep, snoring gently, after a while the person next to him gave him a dig in the ribs
he woke with a start, jumped up & said the closing prayer.
2: this one i witnessed(!);
same location/era
we had a lovely brother, from the caribbean, who always ran way overtime in his talks
in one ministry school session, the bell tinged to call time on him
he carried on regardless--but 2 others had prepared for this
up onto the platform they went, took an elbow each & marched him down the steps off the platform
he still carried on with his talk!
honest, i was there---his name was Walker--the talker.
can someone help me with this: how many times & where is the 144,000 referred to in the bible?.
thank you all for your help with this, now let me try to summarise, to see if i got it straight:
the bride of christ is comprised of 144,000 virgin men
OK
can someone help me with this: how many times & where is the 144,000 referred to in the bible?.
thank you for that Notverylikely.
once
in a book of mystical fantasy written by a very old man
i would have thought this 144,000 would have been a key feature of christianity, but am i right in thinking it's not mentioned in the gospels?
did Jesus refer to it ?
what about Paul, in all his writings ?
i'm just curious, & find this almost interesting.
can someone help me with this: how many times & where is the 144,000 referred to in the bible?.
can someone help me with this: how many times & where is the 144,000 referred to in the bible?
ok i'm new here , posted a few times & still trying to figure out "who's what".
i thought i'd start a thread directed at members who say they are still actively involved within the wt society.
a few questions they might wish to address.
OK lets try another question:
you're an active JW, but regularly enjoy what you read on this site.
lets say you still go out on the door to door ministry
god forbid, but suppose you actually found a person who was interested in your message
what would you do next?
how would you handle this?
or, to extend this idea, would you want to bring them into your religion?
ok i'm new here , posted a few times & still trying to figure out "who's what".
i thought i'd start a thread directed at members who say they are still actively involved within the wt society.
a few questions they might wish to address.
double standards for certain
what i find very difficult to understand is this:
apart from the few devout jw's who waste their time preaching on this site, the rest of us would shed no tears watching the downfall of the WT soc
am i right?
if so, why do members still carry on the workings of the WTsoc, instead of walking away without a backward glance.