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  My Letter I'm Out of the Synagogue of Satan

  by discreetslave in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  todays text is matthew 18:17 ...speak to the congregation.

  so i'm giving everyone i can a copy of after the meeting.

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  ultrabimbo

  Hi discreteslave:

  leavingwt has given you some fine council from my point of view. I disassociated myself in July '06

  over the Societies involvement with the U.N. as an NGO and their indefenseable position on child

  molestation in the congregations. They were the two big issues for me. My wife is still a JW and we

  are terminally seperated I think. We were able to stay together for about 4 years as we loved each

  other very much. But being married to an "apostate" is a big burden for a JW to carry whatever the

  circumstances. My wife finally came to the conclusion that I was a imminent danger to her spirituality

  and used this as her basis to seperate from me "in good conscience". I never in 26+ (weeks away from 27)

  mistreated her in any way. I never even made spirituality an issue. I felt I would do more harm than good in

  constantly challenging her beliefs. But in the end I lost out to "the borg".

  As to your letter, it has a lot of scriptural quotations but no application or specificity. When I read it I thought

  it sounded like the rantings of a person who was a card or two short of a full deck. I mean no harm in that comment

  just letting you know how I felt when I read it. Do I think you are insane, no i don't. But to the witnesses that

  you gave that letter, they probably at least considered that as an option. For your own good, I would turn down the

  rhetoric a bit. You can still say the same thing but in a much more attractive package.

  I wish you well in your relationship with Richard. It sounds like you love each other very much. Remember though

  that love does not always win out in this situation. Be careful how you say what you say. Think about how it will

  sound to the JW point of view before you say it. That's all for now. I really do wish you well.

  Frank
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  were you made to feel guilty if you missed a meeting / service ?

  by man in black in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going along with the last thread ( great subject matter) .

  i'm sort of hitching along here.. we had a bookstudy at our home for several years, every week we were prepared, and we handled service arraingements every saturday morning, even with two young children.. one saturday morning, ( in the middle of winter) one son had a bad cold, and our furnace konked out around 8:15 am.. i was running around trying to get ready for service, calling a repair man, and help my wife get ready for service.. the group comes in at 9:00, and i'm on the phone talking to the repair man who wants to come out between 10-2.. so i'm not going out this morning, and i'm staying home with my sick son, wife and son #2 are going out in service.. conductor comes downstairs and looks at the furnace ( he is a school teacher, no mechanical experience at all, check out my earlier thread video under friends, page 5827 titled "elder makes a video,,,, this is the same guy ) and gives me the classic guilt trip because i'm not going out in service for at least an hour this morning.. i remember thinking just who is this guy, trying to make me feel bad because my family is #1, service is not my focus today.. after all of these years, i cannot help but think of this comment now :.

  "nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent", e. roosevelt.

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  ultrabimbo

  Hi FS:

  Did you ever tell this experience to this "Elder" at a later time? If so, I would be interested as to his response.

  He probably felt she will be toast at armageddon anyway, why should you miss a meeting for

  that? Truth is though not all witnesses are that heartless, at least not many of the ones I have

  known. Brainwashed and in a trance yes, but not that heartless. You helped save a life that day,

  I hope at least, or at least your workmates and you tried your very best to do so. If you did

  attend the meeting it would have been much of the same stale bread and lukewarm water.

  Frank
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  Joliette's 1 year anniversary in apostateland. I ain't going back to Jehovah-town....

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...i'm suppose to be going to the district convention this august, and i'm also going to bethel in august also, for <-------'investigative reasons'.

  this will be my last convention.

  i'm bascially going just to say goodbye to everyone.

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  ultrabimbo

  hey mouthy, thought you were hasta la vista, baby!

  Frank
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  Should I date her?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i just met a lady that is just okay looking and she has a female relative that is a very hot celebrity.

  i would love to meet her thru her.

  am i that bad?

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  ultrabimbo

  Iamallcool:

  Maybe you should just do what all the uncool people do that need to feel like they are cool, get a tattoo. This is not to say that genuinly cool people don't get tattoos, obviously they do, but they were cool before they got the tattoo, you on the other hand will never be, tattoo or not.

  Frank
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  Dialogue program Sat.July 9, 2011...... examining the Garridos.

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  former jehovah's witness presiding overseer and watchtower historian richard rawe will be discussing the garridos and their connections with the jehovah's witnesses on his bi-monthly program "dialogue".

  a panel of researchers will read news paper articles, play audio and video clips including an actual call to the watchtower organization asking if the garridos were associated with them.. the program starts at 6:45 est.

  it is easy to get on the program just dial 712-432-8710 and when asked for pin use 9925 .

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  ultrabimbo

  Even if there is a connection, what does that prove, nothing? If you examined every crime, including the most heinous there would be a connection to some religion or belief system. I suspect there may even be ao few atheists and/or agnostics who have done such dastardly deeds. This is stupid, just admit it. I am DA's from the JW's since '06 so I am not an apologist for them but this is stupid to it's core.

  Frank
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  How important are God and Jesus to you?

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask this question because it goes to:.

  - how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.

  - how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.

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  ultrabimbo

  Thanks for that, but how does string theory explain the universe and how we all got here better than Michaelangelo? You have to admit it would be difficult for the big M to have explained the whole of the creation on a ceiling or a piece of canvas. Tell us how string theory and quantum mechanics explains it. Thanks in advance.

  Frank
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  How important are God and Jesus to you?

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask this question because it goes to:.

  - how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.

  - how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.

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  ultrabimbo

  Hi designs:

  Would you care to explain string theory for the group so that they would know what you meant by "String Theory lacks the warm and fuzzies but explains the building blocks of reality better than the old man reclining and with pointed finger creates the heavens and the earth." Thanks from me.

  Frank
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  How important are God and Jesus to you?

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask this question because it goes to:.

  - how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.

  - how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.

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  ultrabimbo

  Hi Nickolas:

  That makes sense. Have you always been atheistic or is this a recent understanding of yours? Was your wife a JW when you met, or has she had a change in her thinking since you met and were married? If she is dyed in the wool JW it will be very hard to remove the cancer without damaging so much of the surrounding tissue as to make the operation unworthwhile. You may make your points and even win the battles but may lose the war as your relationship could be in tatters. It's a tough call my friend. I made the decision that I would not use a frontal assault on my wife for fear that I would damage her existing faith to the point that our relationship would suffer as much as her faith. In the long run that did not work out well for me because I lost a woman who I loved and continue to love very much. How a full frontal assault works with other relationships I don't know. It is a tough call. Whether you have strong faith in God, or do not believe that he exists, it is a part of who we are. Whatever approach you choose, be careful.

  I for one believe that there is God. Whether I could convince you or anyone else is a tough question to answer. I was a JW from the time I was about 20 till I resigned from the congregation in July '06. I still have strong faith in Jehovah and his Son Jesus but my understandings of who and what they are are much different now than when I was 20. I am currently 55 years old. Perhaps we can discuss this in more detail. I will tell you that I try not to get into a lot of pointless arguments that will lead nowhere, but if we can discuss it civilly, I'm game.

  Frank
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  How important are God and Jesus to you?

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask this question because it goes to:.

  - how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.

  - how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.

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  ultrabimbo

  Hi Nikolas:

  You seem like a reasonable individual but why do you really care what others believe or do not believe? You seem quite comfortable in your

  atheism. Is that not enough for you? Do you derive some joy in questioning the faith of others

  not disposed as yourself? Is this some kind of philosophical "muscle beach" for you? Just wondering?

  Frank
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  Dating after Divorcing a JW...

  by RagingBull in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  any experiences/advice on dating (moving on) after a separation or divorce from a jw?.

  i know that when (not if) i leave the org, my wife will probably separate then divorce me (and we have 3 small children).

  i only know of horror stories when it comes to that type of scenario.

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  ultrabimbo

  Hi Raging Bull:

  I am glad that you have come to know a little, or more than a little about the truth about "the truth", but

  I am not happy that you will have to experience the pain that this will cause you in your marriage and in

  your relationships with your kids. I submitted my resignation from the congregation in July '06 based on

  my understanding of the societies stand and policies on child molestation within the congregations and thier

  illicit relationship with the U.N. and the last 5 years have been a mixed bag of increased understanding of

  who Jehovah and Jesus are of the pain and suffering that is experienced when one person sees the

  flaws of the WTBTS and the other does not. My wife and I had been married for 27 years when she decided

  to seperate from me based on the feeling that I was a definite threat to her spirituality. I can only surmise

  that this was the info she recieved at the meetings and from the magazines and from advice from the "brothers".

  We were able to keep our relatinship alive for about 5 years but in the end the humiliation that she suffered

  being married to an "apostate" was too much for her to bare. Don't jump to conclusion though, I have read

  many accounts on this board and others that have shown that this is not always how it turns out. Sometimes

  the mate who is still "in the truth" will start to question things and eventually thier feelings on the matter will

  soften to one degree or another. Don't jump to any conclusions. Your situation may very well be different than

  mine and the outcome could be quite different as well. If you still love your wife it is worth the effort. Wish you

  well in whatever path you choose but I hope things go well for you. I hope this will not cause you to lose your

  faith though as it does to many.

  Frank