TKS Doug,
I hope people will read your studie instead to believe without thinking someone els or an organisation.
DS
to arrive at its date of 607 bce for jerusalems destruction, the wts uses what it calls bible chronology.. this bible chronology says that since the seventy year period ended in 537 bce, when 70 years are counted back this provides the 607 bce date for jerusalems destruction.. the wts says its bible chronology method is superior to the secular uninspired chronology provided by secular sources.. does the wtss bible chronology align with the bibles teachings on the seventy years?
is its method the valid way to determine when jerusalem was destroyed?.
these matters are discussed in my study, which is available at:.
TKS Doug,
I hope people will read your studie instead to believe without thinking someone els or an organisation.
DS
i wanted to relate this experience i had on sunday while renewing ties with an old friend.
we argued about the meaning of daniel 4 and nebuchadnezzar's "tree dream".
my friend had insisted this dream told the reader the length of the gentile times.
Howmany TIMES we debate on 1914, its almost 100 TIMES ago that the 7 TIMES ended accourding the JW.
i wanted to relate this experience i had on sunday while renewing ties with an old friend.
we argued about the meaning of daniel 4 and nebuchadnezzar's "tree dream".
my friend had insisted this dream told the reader the length of the gentile times.
If two years has 730 days how many days has 4 years?
If you know the richt answer why you are sure if 7 times is 7 years has the same amount of days in a year?
i wanted to relate this experience i had on sunday while renewing ties with an old friend.
we argued about the meaning of daniel 4 and nebuchadnezzar's "tree dream".
my friend had insisted this dream told the reader the length of the gentile times.
When i had study out of the daniel book I pointed many errors already in the book by simple logic.
they guy who give me the study was so confused that he used 70 AD and not 607 BC in his calculation from his mind.
1914 = 2520 + 70 of course i play with the mind of an JW and quendi has an good point.
during one chapter they stated Babylon was not overtroned in 1000 years!!! I asked back what about the Assyrians why Nebukadnessar need to rebuild temples? Then you see that the poor guy is trained what he hear from the organisation.
obviously 607 is a problem, watchower coming out full forces on this one in the latest public edition.. http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20111001.pdf.
Tks Ann,
Furuli make really a mess. I guess never been peer reviewd.
What other proof they think they have the WTS in the second part?
THERE IS NO PROOF for 607BC by the Bible or astronomical or historical.
JW's do you trust in your leaders made up formula or the 3 above sources?
obviously 607 is a problem, watchower coming out full forces on this one in the latest public edition.. http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20111001.pdf.
Dear Ann,
Thanks!!! i will study this the coming weekend. ;)
DS
obviously 607 is a problem, watchower coming out full forces on this one in the latest public edition.. http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20111001.pdf.
So 1 Nisan cannot be fall in may in our calendar system. Its way to late that is point one.
obviously 607 is a problem, watchower coming out full forces on this one in the latest public edition.. http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20111001.pdf.
VAT 4956 give accurate positions of Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. Astronomers calculated that these planets were in these unique positions only between the spring of 568 and 567 B.C.
what does the JW need to mixed up to pretent it hapen in 588???
I know Furuli make a mess with VAT 4956 but i need some simple short list.
DS
obviously 607 is a problem, watchower coming out full forces on this one in the latest public edition.. http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20111001.pdf.
Dear Ann,
Do you have an link for me where VAT tablet with 588BC link is debunked?
DS
i read outlaw's post about how he has watched people make an online career out of debating for and against arguments regarding 607 and 586 being the date of jerusalem's fall.
he's right that this has happened and it's had the nasty side effect of "mudding up the waters" so-to-speak in regards to anyone wishing to glean wisdom from these debates.. i am not a historian and when posts start getting overtly historical my reading of them seems to slow down and i find myself having to reread posts.. i am going to try to simply state each argument to see if i have put it together (correct me if i am wrong):.
the watchtower says that they default to the bible's figure of 70 years of jewish exile which is used more than once in the old testament.
yep 1914 must stand for all cost by jw's.
Even there is no zero year or Jarusalem was destroyed in a other year or the 70 yeard ended and started in a other year then JW's believed.
THEY (JW) HAVE 0.0% PROOF BUT THEY ARE ATTACKING PROOF THAT THEY ARE WRONG.