Question for The Old Hippy - I thought Gods word was eternal. So it shouldn't matter if the quotes were from 1900 or 2012, truth is truth and it never changes. Or is just that part of God word wrong, and it does change?
carvin
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Ethos said: ''the GB have never claimed to have any special ability'' Some WT quotes..
by punkofnice in(wt 1957 june 15 p. 370) .
watchtower 1957 june 15 p.370 "it is vital that werespond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of god.
" (wt 1964 june 15 p. 365) .
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What is the stupidest comment you ever heard at a meeting?
by 3rdgen ina very reliable friend told me this: the bro was commenting on what was "unacceptable" conduct in the bedroom between married persons.
needless to say, he had everyone's attention.
he went on to say "we must avoid perversions such as oral and annual sex.
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carvin
Joey Jo Jo remindend me of a conversation w/an elder about bdays and anniverserys. Elder said anav. are ok because god instituted marrage, so I asked who instituted birth? I was then told "You're just looking for fault in the org." I replied what are you looking for when you knock on peoples doors? I'm such a rebel.
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What is the stupidest comment you ever heard at a meeting?
by 3rdgen ina very reliable friend told me this: the bro was commenting on what was "unacceptable" conduct in the bedroom between married persons.
needless to say, he had everyone's attention.
he went on to say "we must avoid perversions such as oral and annual sex.
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carvin
At a DC it was stated that "We have no broken homes in the organization." And later, "no JW has ever died from AIDS."
We had one "anointed brother" who was totally aginst gatherings, sports, music, well everything really. There were a bunch of kids trying to get a football game going and he commented that "if you look at the WT and Awake mags. you will never see a picture with more than 7 or 8 people at a gathering, or playing any game. So we must conclude that we can not attend if we know of leave if we find out that there will be more than 7 or 8 prople there."
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Why do we have to 'prove' anything to God. (This point made at assembly today)
by PaintedToeNail inthe point was made at the assembly today, that we have to 'prove' our love for jehovah to him.
as i sat there, bored, this thought struck me as odd.
since jehovah is supposed to be able to read 'hearts', why do we as humans, have to prove anything to him, since he already knows us down to our kidneys and would know if we loved him or not.
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carvin
Itall depends on your deffinition of who god is. If it's the WT god then yes you have to prove it because they are there watching your every move and reporting them to the higher WT gods. You will never be able to please a group of men trying to proclaim themselves as god.
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What Songs Do You Find Mesmerising?
by minimus ini love chris isaak's wicked game.
it's haunting.. traffic's low spark of high heeled boys was/is a song that i'd listen to over and over again.
(if i were to ever taked lsd, that would be the song i'd listen to).. i love michael jackson's version of smile.
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carvin
Hipnotized - Fleetwood Mac
Aquamarine - Santana
Spirit in the Night - Springsteen
Ethreal Mood - Jean Luc Ponty
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Warning To All: Taxes Next Year (2011)
by Scott77 indisclaimer: iam not the author but just merely sharing what i have just read.
its up to each reader to form his or her opinion after reading it.. .
in just six months, the largest tax hikes in the history of america will.
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carvin
If the debt is such a big problem, and the only way to fix it is with higher taxes, then let's just tax everyone at 100% and let the government give us what we need to survive.
If the "rich" are so evil, we can fix that problem as well. We can put a lot of people to work by tearing down houses and building 1000's of identicle ones. That way nobody has a bigger house than anyone else, and it is all "fair". Also we could build and allow only one car model, so again everything is the same. The list goes on and on, but be honest who would want that, other than politicians who would exempt them selves from those rules.
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Things we never told the public.....
by drewcoul ini thought it would be interesting to discuss the things we believed as jw's, but were kind of embarassed about and didn't tell the public about, since it would make us look ridiculous.......... one thing i can think of is the idea that only jw's will make it through armageddon.
everyone else would be destroyed.
i would never tell anyone that even though we all believed it.
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carvin
The belief that all other religions were worshiping Satan weather they know it of not. I have always said that worship is a deliberate act and you can't do it by accident.
Stepping one foot inside another church building is satan worship. Mom and dads days, bdays are worshiping those people. Voting is worship. They all sound pathetic and I was always trying to hide thes from my friends(the ones I wasn't supposed to have).
I love pointing out to JW's who still talk to me, as we pass by a bunch of young children or even if it is only one child, that it is a shame that they will be rejoicing as they pile up those innocent bodies for the birds to feast on.
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How should I reply?
by hotchocolate inso i wrote an email to my brother to tell him that i love him and that it's sad that a religion has come between us.
this is the reply i got:.
stupid and ignorant.
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carvin
First of all, ditto what bluegill said.
I have found that many JW who "stumble" and then return are some of the most hard a$$ JW's there are. They feel like they have to make up for their past. They also feel like they are better JW's bacause they seem to have overcome greater odds, have seen the real world etc. And I am sure they feel like other JW's are watching them to see if they slip up again, so they go extra hard.
I'm sorry I don't have anything for you to reply with. However thanks to my JW training I used to be a real smart a$$. With that in mind you could say something like - "OK I won't contact you again after this, after all I don't wont to offend your superior Christian values. I have no desire to interfere with your orders from the GB to abandon Jehovah's creation of family bonds, and the love and support system he created for the betterment of his creation. After all a few odl men in New York would naturaly have more insight into how to treat family then Jehovah would. That is why he chose them for their position because they know better."
But it would probably do no good. Wait until he has some large problem in his life and starts needing real help. I mean help beyond - "Do more brother, for Jehovah! Then he will help you"
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Sticky Situation - What to do?
by I<3MYGod ini have posted about my experience with the cult....so now i find myself in a difficult position.
i have left it alone for many years but i wonder what you guys think.. i faded away from the cult and stopped going for quite a while.
my older sister took it upon herself to meet with my family and discuss all my sins and actions (they were active).
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carvin
Void Eater is 100% correct. Take it up w/your family, if you think they will listen, or leave it alone.
My wifes brother sleeps around, she and her sisters say they won't be suprised when he "comes home with aids." Her BIL, is a alcoholic, was accused of child molestation, has tried to bed my wife even telling her he wants to rape her. her family and my father still asocciate whit them since they are not DF'ed. Me, I'm not worthy, my sin? I admitted that I talked to my DF'ed best friend at my mothers funeral, and said I was not sorry for doing so. If there is a problem with in the family I am expected to bail them out but then it's back to I'm not worthy.
So it depends on how your family will react to what you say. I wish you all the best!
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JW Elders Wife beds anything in troucers
by Hairyhegoat inwell were do i start.. this elders wife was after anything with troucers on.
my 2 freinds that were still in were groaped by her and both bedded her aswell!
my brother who is now out and df told me she loved a good roasting.
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carvin
An elders daughter in my old hall would spend the night at her friends house. Well the friend had twin brothers about a year or two older than the girls. Well she was caught late at night going from one boys room to the other and nailing them both. However as you've already guessed not a word got out and not punishment at all. If that were not enough both sets of parents still allowed the girl to sleep over. Yes it continued, and the recently reinstated father of the twin boys was told he needs to control better what happens in his house. He said no more sleep overs and was told that the kids need good association so he should still allow sleepovers. So when the elders daughter would sleep over the brother would sit in a chair in the hallway between the girls room and the boys two rooms. And he would catch the elders daughter trying to sneak past many times.
This elders daughter was and still is held up as a shining example of how to be a good witness. She has had many assembly parts etc. On a side note her brother went to bethel and was asked to leave within 6 weeks because he kept loosing the keys he was assigned.