years ago before i took the time and effort to study logic and argumentation, i went to a market and bought some toothpaste.
it was a little-known brand and it touted "baking soda" as its magic ingredient.
it was also cheaper than the name-brand toothpastes and that helped me in my decision.
Farkel - Great example and great thread, logic is something missing in dub land.
Mary - I really enjoy reading your 'experiences" I wish I had the calm natuer your have when dealing with them. I don't raise my voice or call names as that is not my nature. However I do get frustrated and tend to just drop the subject. But reading yours and many others posts do help in my framing some responces. Thanks to all of you
i bet people has forgotten me but thats ok because i know they have helped me a lot on here.. .
anyways i think the last time i been on here i mentioned my jw sister not going to my wedding.
for those that do remember my story, the wedding was beautiful on the beach in key west, fl!
Please understand that right now they will show you love even if limited for now. They will make you think that this is the way it will always be. Do not be mislead, after you are reinstated ynu will be placed back on that treadmill of nothing is ever enough, with the "carrot" of eternal life dangled before you. They haven't changed, I am not trying to change you mind I just want you to realize what your in for. Please keep us informed, because if they really are changing that could be a good thing and we would like to know. I wish you all the best in your journey.
good news!.
the dutch kingdom ministry shows the following statement:.
this year (2010) 43.372 persons attended the memorial, 100 persons took of the symbols.. the 2009 attendance figure was 51.578.. this means that 8.206 went missing in one single year, a plunge of 16%.. i get the impression that the partakes figure is going up as they now avoid the term "annointed".. .
Hadit - In other words the number partaking indicates that there are MORE and MORE people who believe they are anointed when there should be less. Thus some of those who partake are not really anointed they are just delusional.
That is so funny, they are admiting that their followers are delusional.
every time i see jw's in service, they are not carrying bookbags but rather plastic holders and small fold over purses to hold them.. what ever happened to the big ol' bookbag in service?.
asilentone- you are so right, those big bags are a status symbol. When I was first diped, and started to piosneer, I was about to order myself one of those big bags, because I was really into reasearch. My father and another elder both told me not to because they were for elders.
I know a few elders who would fill their bag so full of papers,mags, books, etc that they could not find anything in them. But boy did they look so theocratic. Then there were the elders that had this huge bag, with a WT,KM, Bible, and a Flock book. Oh yea a pen and a highlighter. They didn't look as "important" but they hadwhat they needed which was the point of having a bag to begin with, but the overkill on those large bags is silly.
i challenge everyone on this board to show the same anger, hatred and racism at glenn beck's rally.
watch, listen, learn.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-glenn%e2%80%99s-disgrace-shocking-racism-at-al-sharptons-mlk-anniversary/.
Serenity - I agree that most black people, at least the ones I know, do not agree with this kind of talk. I hope you don't think that I was implying that.
Many here are saying the Glenn Beck has an agenda,of course he does we all do in our own way. I believe he truely loves this country and is afraid of the road we are on at this point in time. I have not heard him say anything like that in the Shabazz speach. If we don't agree with someone that is fine, we should say why and give a counter point. We should not personally attact them or call for them to be silenced. It does not foster growth, the sharing of ideas does.
i guess i should have said, "how does a man move up" since they're a male-only ruling class.... what does it take to become an elder, and so on up?
i don't really think the mr. is in the running for any special titles, but just in case in the future something along these lines happens, how does the hierarchy work?
(probably not a true consideration, being that he's married to me, but hey, i'm sure stranger things have happened).. .
having a lot of money, & kissing butt
or- having a lot of money, & kissing a lot of butt
i challenge everyone on this board to show the same anger, hatred and racism at glenn beck's rally.
watch, listen, learn.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-glenn%e2%80%99s-disgrace-shocking-racism-at-al-sharptons-mlk-anniversary/.
If Beck or any other white person were to say the exact thing that Sharpton said only replacing black with white it would be called "hate speach". They would be accused of inciting violence, and there would be calls to remove them from whatever platform/job they had so as not to be able to freely express themselves again. In answer to the treads intent, there is no comparison from the Beck rally, because contrary to liberal belief consivertives on the whole are not hate mongers, or racist. It was the consivertivs/republicans that fought to give Blacks the right to vote, and they passed the Equil Rights Amendment, over the objection of the liberals/democrats.
a couple of months ago the brother giving a talk was bragging about all of the good work.
that the wtbts does thru their missionaries.
he said that all that the christendom's missionaries.
All these posts are so heart wrenching because they are so true. A few years ago when I was in but fading, I asked my elder dad why we don't do charitable works, his reply was "Jesus said "the poor will be with you always". This comming form a man who before he was a witless taught me to sacrfice whatever I could if someone was in need.
do j dubs like glenn beck?
they seem like peas in a pod to me.
Beks - do you really mean that? You really wish we could figure out some kind of virus that would kill idiots and leave the rest of us?
Please tell me you were just frustrated when you said that. If you really mean that then please tell us who are the idiots? Are they those who you don't agree with? Please tell me you are not that intollerant. I enjoy most of your comments, even those I don't agree with but this one was not in good taste, sorry to say that.
"do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones.
" ecclesiastes 7:9. have you noticed: .
how so many witlesses get their nose out of joint if you make a wisecrack/joke that's even the slightest bit off color or heretical?
When I was still in there was a very atractive girl that started studying with a sister and was attanding meetings. My best friend and I honestly were neve inetersted in her other than her being a witless. We never thought about asking her out or anything, however in her mind she was the only thing on every males mind. We would say hello to her and her standard responce would be - "I'm engaged". The first time was a shock, the second time was strange, the third time, was a decloration of war! Needless to say I had fun with that for about two months, until she was no longer engaged. One meeting we each said hello to her right after each other four times, and we got the same responce each time. It was so funny to watch the reaction of everyone around her everytime she would give that responce, especally around the seventh or eighth time.
About two years later I was married and my wife and her became friends and one night were were talking about "old times" and I told this story, and she tried to say it did not happen. However my mother and father were there (My dad's an elder) and they both told her that i was accurate in my story, the look on her face was pricless.
Why is it that crap like that are what we recall as good times in the WT?
