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Newsweek Letter Writer Silenced
by silentlambs inthe following email was sent to me today, if anyone would like to send and encouraging comment to loris i will be glad to forward it to her.
all she did was tell the truth and now she is facing sanction in the congregation.
so according to wt pr you are not sanctioned if you go to the police but you are sanctioned if you talk about it.
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Anointed Phaseout?
by metatron ini was surprized by the deletion of the new book-for-baptism's.
chapter on partaking/being anointed.. can it be that they are thinking of de-emphasizing or fading.
my first reaction would be no, that this.
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They dismiss Chapter 14 of United Worship-book in their new realese "Worship the Only True God" (actually, this new book is a replacement of United Worship,1983). It may means they will dump the two classes then announce every Christian has a same hope. They should make something like that for many recruitments in 20 to 30 years more should still run their business and the 8000 "remnants" can not survived then. They already made some steps in the past: The Nethinim class (foreigners can serve in the temple--Bethel today?), even the non Annointed ones can serve in Governing Body etc...
So they want to dump it , they will...
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The Watchtower has a deal with the Navy.
by avengers inwell, here's another nail for the coffin: my son requested this info to show his jw sister.
washington, d.c. 20549.
form 10-ksb.
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And according to the protocol signed in 1993) the link [check end page 12 and begin page 13]:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/000101540201502232/doc1.txt
, they ( the inventors of Rand Cam engine and sellers [include Watchtower] )still gain benefit:
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Other provisions of the April 1993 Agreement call for is (a) to pay to RAND a
continuing royalty of 5% of the net profits derived from the Technology by us
and (b) to pay to Brian Cherry a continuing royalty of 1% of the net profits
derived by us from the Technology.
Pursuant to the letter of understanding dated December 13, 1993, among us, RAND,
Reg Tech and WVURC, WVURC will receive 5% of all net profits from sales,
licenses, royalties or income derived from the patented technology relating to
the Original Engine and the RC/DC Engine.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought you can also visit this link (although in other language, but many links and captions in English):
Edited by - jwsons on 15 July 2002 15:17:59
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"Two Witnesses" doctrine and child ab...
by stevieb1 inlike many others, i too am outraged by the watchtower's legalistic doctrine over the reporting of child abuse to the authorities, but for those lead by the bible we do have a dilemma because it would seem that the society are correct in their interpretation of deuteronomy 19:15 and matthew 18:16 and naturally they want to apply these verses to how they handle allegations of child abuse in judicial cases.. .
but with that being said, does the watchtower mis-apply these verses in any way?
if it can be shown that they do the case against them will be much stronger!.
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If the body of elders can not established the court on behalf of the victim(s) because of the "two witnesses" Bible-based written policy, why don't let the victim go to the secular authority, which will investigate the matter, then ? Why disfellowship the victim ?
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New Blood Card has been printed and is......
by Jourles in.
....due out in june of 2011. this is what it will boil down to in another nine years imo.
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With Flip-Flop doctrines, they may have flip-flop cards, too.
I just wonder if "apostates" didn't explain the true meaning of the biological term "allogeneic" too early, the new cards now may in all the Jdubs' wallets aready, warm and tidy ?
How can the ordinary Jdubs understand or even realize it is different from previuos years ? "Mother" of harlots seems to play a perfect game secretly in Jdubs' pockets a couple of years beforehand, then announce latter on: "It's not new, anyhow. It's already in your pockets !!!"
Such a game !
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Bertrand Russell and Religion
by Valis inmaybe some didn't get to this thread, but i thought all would enjoy the thoughts of bertrand russell on religion....one of my faves... .
sincerely,.
district overbeer
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I like the book with title "POWER" from his works. It's the first time I know JWs did pray for one side in WW1 but Christadelphian didn't ( Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose,1959, p92 or Proclaimers-book, p191, the previous is clearer)
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Faithful Slave Remove Some Menu Items
by proplog2 inas metatron posted 2 months ago the watchtower doesn't mention anything about blood in the new book "worship the only true god".. this is a very important book because it is recommended as a "deeper" study aid for those contemplating baptism.
it replaces the united in true worship book that was published 19 years ago.. the united in true worship book had 24 chapters.
the new replacement book has only 21 chapters.
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Prisca, I realize you have the new pic. Cute! (fair-dinkum)
About the new Worship-book:
They Dropped chapter 14 off "I make a Covenant With You for a Kingdom": It may mean they very soon will announce there is no distinguish between two classes, there is no two hope for Christian. I can say as such for 1998 (?) they allowed Nethinim class (non-Levite can enjoy services at the ancient temple--Is it modern-day Bethel Home Temple?). Then allow non-Annoited one in very high rank even Governing Body. So it can be ....
Dropped Chapter 20 about Blood after allow all JDubs use Blood cards of previous years instead of renew every January. It can be Blood Transfusion matter will be OK soon.
Check here: http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/bloodcard.htm
And how about the title of the book? The word United is dropped. Why? Is it mean no longer United in Worship ? Oh! I can see Everybody in this board forum can be called "active JWs" soon (for they're not united in ideas and policies with WacoTower and Darkl Society anymore, but they can still in Watchtower population (in statistic number reporting every January in Watchtower) and still can be call brothers Otherwise, the new recruitment can not fill up the gap of faithful and long services brothers+sisters running away from the "WacoTower Refuge Cities"? Like the way J R Brown wrote to Dateline 'We will not turn up there at the interview for We [the borg at Brooklyn] and Bill Bowen still be brothers. Can not argue or solve the differences between brothers in front of worldly media' "Yeh? Wait and see.
Edited by - jwsons on 9 July 2002 18:44:19
Edited by - jwsons on 9 July 2002 18:51:10
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New book pisses active Witnesses off!
by Intuit39 inmy sister just called me at work to let me know that her husband (until recently, unsympathetic to her doubts) is thoroughly confused and pissed off by the new 'worship' book!.
he has been comparing it with the 'united' book, has noted the obvious differences (3 missing chapters), and has begun examining it word for word...now he is raving looney about it.. to top it off, they were at bethel within the last few days, somehow ended up in brother larson's personal office, and were astonished to find a model spanish galleon replete with huge crosses, and a huge portrait of good ol' max towering over the watchtower itself.
she said her husband thought it looked like a propaganda poster for 'big brother'..... finally!
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Highlight of the new Flip Flop "United in Worship"-book
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=31661&site=3
Edited by - jwsons on 8 July 2002 13:46:24
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I thought NewLight2 did post something like this under the title"Old Light - New Light: Changes in Watchtower Doctrines" on 04/07/2001 at Hourglass H2O (old at coolboard). I only have the old link (off course, it doesn't work anymore, for H2O now move to aimo.com).
I think I better paste his original text here:[Note: below section is the work of NewLight2 of H2O, not mine]
CHANGES IN WATCHTOWER DOCTRINES
OLD LIGHT - NEW LIGHT
ORGAN TRANSPLANTS
1967-1980: prohibited as "cannibalism" WT 11/15/67 p.702
Since 1980 - permitted WT 3/15/80 p.31VACCINATIONS
1931-1952 Prohibited as being a "direct violation of the everlasting covenant." Golden Age 2/4/31 p.293
Since 1952 - permitted WT 12/15/52 p.764and AWAKE! 8/22/65 p.20ORGANIZATION - ITS IMPORTANCE
1893 - No organization today WT 1893 p.266
1894 - Not part of the Lord's plan. WT 12/1/1894 p. 384
1895 - Beware of organization WT 9-15-1895 p.216
1955 - Respect the organization Qualified to be Ministers, 1955, p.380
1957 - Obedience to organization. WT 5/1/57 p.274
1972 - Submit to headship (Governing Body) WT 12-15-72 p.755
1983 - Essential part of the Lord's plan WT 2/15/83 p.12PYRAMIDOLOGY
Prior to 1928 - "God's Stone Witness and Prophet" Used to predict dates Thy Kingdom Come, 1891, p.313, 16, 17, 342, 362
Since 1928 - Satan's Bible; not God's Stone Witness. WT 11/15/28 p.344
1928 - Satan's Bible WT 11-15-28 p.841
1930 - Just a pile of stones Light II, 1930, p.286ROMANS 13:1 - WHO ARE THE "SUPERIOR AUTHORITIES?"
1886 - Earthly governments Divine Plan of the Ages, 1886, p.266
1889 - Earthly governments Time Is At Hand, 1889, p.81
1932-1963: God and Christ Vindication, Vol. 3, 1932, p.13 and The Truth Shall Make You Free, 1943, p.312
1952 - God and Christ Let God Be True, 1952, p.248
1959 - God and Christ Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, p.91
1963 - Earthly political governments WT 1/1/63 p.31
1975 - Earthly political governments 1975 Yearbook, p.238 1980 - Earthly political governments WT 5/15/80 p.4THE REVELATION NAMES "APOLLYON" AND "ABADDON"
Refers to Satan - The Finished Mystery, p.159
Refers to Jesus Christ - Then Is Finished the Mystery of God, p.232WHO IS "THE TRUE LORD?"
Jesus Christ WT 9-15-83 p.19
Jehovah God WT 7-1-89 p.30THE "ALPHA AND OMEGA"OF REVELATION 22:12
Refers to Jehovah God - AWAKE! 8/22/78 p.28
Refers to Jesus Christ - WT 10/1/78 p.15
( A major change in just 2 months!)WHO IS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL?
Not the Son of God - WT November, 1879, p.4
Jesus not an angel - WT March, 1883, p.456
The Pope of Rome - The Finished Mystery, 1926 Edition, p.188
Jesus Christ, the Son of God - Reasoning From the Scriptures, 1985, p.218SAYING "HELLO" TO DISFELLOWSHIPPED MEMBERS?
1970 NO WT 6/1/70 p.352
1972 NO Organization for Kingdom Preaching..., 1972, p.172
1974 YES WT 8/1/74 pp.464,465 1981 NO WT 9/15/81 p.25WILL THE MEN OF SODOM AND GOMORRA BE RESURRECTED?
1879 YES WT July, 1879 p.8
1952 NO WT 6/1/52 p.338
1965 YES WT 8/1/65 p.479
1988 NO WT 8/1/88 p.31
1988 YES "You Can Live Forever..." p.179 (Old Edition)
1988 NO "You Can Live Forever..." p.179 (New Edition)
1988 YES Insight On The Scriptures, Vol.2, p.985
1988 NO Revelation - Its Grand Climax p.273WHEN WAS THE 'SECOND PRESENCE' OF JESUS CHRIST?
1874 - Harp of God, 1921, p.234
1874 - WT 1/1/24 p.5
1874 - Creation, 1927, p.289
1874 - Prophecy, 1929, p.65
1914 - AWAKE! 4/22/57 pp. 11,12
1914 - From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained, 1958, p.170
1914 - God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years..., 1973, pp. 209,210
1914 - You Can Live Forever..., 1982, p.147The Society said in the Watchtower issue of WT 1/15/93 p.5 "The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus' presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914."
"CONSISTENTLY"? After examining the above quotes, is this true?
WHO IS THE "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE?"
a. All anointed Watchtower members - JWS in the Divine Purpose, p.68
b. Brother Russell filled the office of special "servant" - WT 3/1/23 p.6
c. From 1896 to 1916 - Watchtower founder, Charles Taze Russell The Finished Mystery, 1917, p.5
d. Charles Taze Russell - The finished Mystery, 1917, p.53
e. Spiritual Israelites: the 'anointed' Society members - From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained, 1958, p.193
f. The Watchtower admits earlier view that Russell was considered "the Servant" Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, 1959, p.69
g. A "class" of individuals - 1975 Yearbook, p.88
h. "Russell disavowed being the Servant." - God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years..., 1973, pp.345,346
i. The Society asserts that it never published a biography of Pastor Russell - Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, 1959, p.63
j. But here are the Introductory pages of the Society's Biography of Pastor Russell - The Divine Plan of the Ages, 1927 Ed., p.1(So, why the cover-up?)
k. Because in this Biography Russell admitted in private that HE was "the Servant" - The Divine Plan of the Ages, 1927 Ed., p.7
SOME NOTABLE QUOTES...
"A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. "New light" never extinguishes older "light" but adds to it." Charles Russell in Zion's Watchtower, Feb. 1881, p.3
"It is a serious matter to represent God and Christ in one way, then find that our understanding of the major teachings and fundamental doctrines of the Scriptures was in error, and then after that, to go back to the very doctrines that, by years of study, we had thoroughly determined to be in error. Christians cannot be vacillating - 'wishy-washy' - about such fundamental teachings. What confidence can one put in the sincerity or judgment of such persons?" WT 5/15/76 p.298
"However, it may have seemed to some as though that path has not always gone straight forward. At times explanations given by Jehovah's visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case. This might be compared to what is known in navigational circles as "tacking." By maneuvering the sails, the sailors can cause a ship to go from right to left, back and forth,..." WT 12/1/81 p.27
But then they say:
"...to run "not uncertainly" means that to every observer it should be very evident where the runner is heading. The Anchor Bible renders it "not on a zigzag course." Wt 8/1/92 p.17
Yet this right to left "zigzag course" is the very direction that the Society has given itself permission to take!
We have the right to again ask: "What confidence can one put in the sincerity or judgment of such persons?"
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A NEW SIGN OUT FRONT AT BETHEL!
by Mary ini think it's time bethel got a new sign out front, one that really speaks volumes and is far more suitable to their "read god's word the bible daily.
i was thinking: .
oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!
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