so, i'm new to the site lurked around for a week or so now before signing up.
i'll try to keep this first post short.
just looking to make some connections with others that have been thru similar life experiences and help out anyone that feels empty and alone after leaving the "organization".
Welcome gonzo2k. I look forward to reading more from you. Do you know about exjw.meetup.com where you can meet and talk with ex-JWs? Some people feel better talking to others rather than just posting.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
my leaving is a big deal.
my family was considered the perfect jw family.
we had "friends" say the family on the cover of the new brochure listen to god reminds them of us.
Hi discreetslave, have you considered enrolling your kids in public schools? With a little research I am sure that you can locate a good public school near you. By making new non-JW friends at public schools, your kids will have plenty of opportunities to make play dates with their new friends. After a couple of months of making new friends, going to birthday parties, going trick-or-treating, etc, I am sure that your children will not want to go clean up the KH, and you and your husband should be able to spend some quality time with each other with a little pre-planning.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
every day there is yet another post concerning people's fury and frustration with the loathsome two witness rule concerning pedophiles.
do others believe that pedophiles, organized through the internet as to where they are the safest, become jws b/c most other religions protect children?
or do some witnesses just err b/c they are human and the wt has an unfortunate policy.. the accusations against the roman catholic church which led many rcs not to donate any money to their diocese but to turn to their own catholic relief groups show pedophiles were encouraged and coddled.
If I were a male pedophile, narcissist, and/or controlling, abusive, chauvinist pig, I would love being a JW. The WTBTS' doctrines are perfect for psychopaths and sociopaths to thrive!! All a person has to do is follow the rules, be an elder/MS, and make sure there are no witnesses except your victim. I still can’t believe that women let the male JWs dominate them considering that 60% of JWs are women.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
BibleStudent
i'm a young man.
happily drifting.
the lie was my life.
Welcome stray and I hope to read more posts from you. If you want to help your family and wife awaken, I would recommend that you read Steve Hassan's books (e.g., "Combatting Cult Mind Control") and visit his website www.freedomofmind.com. If you want to help your wife awaken more, you can try to get her involved in fun activities that will get her to met and make friends with "Worldly" people. The more time you spend with your wife doing fun things will help her believe that you love her. You could also write anonymous emails to your family and friends like I wrote about in http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/211893/1/Youe28099ve-Got-Mail-TM.
By the way have you seen the video of Ray Franz on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c6I0fjiYNU&feature=related
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
this was to much, i had to write my mom in an attempt to see if she would think outside of the box.
i have brought this subject up with them before regarding how the truth really isn't being preached in the entire earth and what that means for all those people.. this is what i sent:.
iran's supreme court says an evangelical pastor charged with apostasy can be executed if he does not recant his faith, according to a copy of the verdict obtained by a religious rights activist group.
Well, there are accounts in the Bible of people who were in nations that
didn't worship Jehovah (Rahab, for one). She recognized the truth, and
took a chance with not only HER life, but the lives of her family.
Jehovah saved her and she became an ancestress of Jesus -- despite the
fact that for the first part of her life she was a pagan worshipper. I
guess Jehovah knows the hearts of individuals, and can protect them.
Hi jworld. Since your mother admitted that Jehovah knows the hearts of individuals and can protect them, does that mean that Jehovah will protect "Worldly" people too during the Apocalypse? Ask your mother simple questions based on her answers. I would ask your mother also for more examples from the Bible of people who did not worship Jehovah? What about the Samaritan woman who gave Jesus water?
Unless your mother is shunning you or you feel that she will shun you if you get Df'ed, wouldn't it be better to spend time with your mother doing fun things with "Worldly" people away from JWs? Why is your mother a JW? Is it because she has JW friends and is afraid to do things that she likes that might put her in situations where she will meet more "Worldly" friends? If your mother believes that the GB doesn't know what generation is meant in Jesus parable, then wouldn't it be a good idea to help your mother to learn about investing money for her retirement. My point is that the more interests that your mother has outside of the WTBTS the easier it will be to get her away from the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
today while i was working i remembered a wt on there having to be two witness to a person who comes forward later in life saying he had been molested as a chld and i was thinking no it really could not have been to blatant like i remembered it.
sadly i did find it and no i remembered it right.
it to me is sick!
What are Examples of Child Endangerment?
The states differ as to what constitutes child endangerment, but some common examples include:
- Leaving a child unattended in a motor vehicle
- Driving while intoxicated with a child in the motor vehicle
- Hiring a person with a known history of sexual offenses as a childcare provider
- Serving alcohol to an underage driver
- Leaving a young child unsupervised or in the care of another young child
- Unreasonable corporal punishment resulting in bodily injury
- Drug manufacturing in the presence of a child
- Leaving a young child unsupervised in an unsafe area
- Failure to report suspected child abuse
What are the Penalties for Endangering a Child?
The penalties for endangering a child vary from state to state but can be very severe:
- California: Imprisonment for up to 6 years
- Illinois: Imprisonment for up to 10 years
- New York: Imprisonment for up to 1 year
- Texas: Imprisonment for up to 20 years
Hi life is to short. JWs and exJWs should also be aware of child endangerment laws in some states of the USA (or protection laws in other countries). An abused person should consult a lawyer in states like California, Illinois, New York, and Texas when sexually abused and also unreasonable corporal punishment resulting in bodily injury. I wonder if the WTBTS will be writing a new article about advise for elders considering that laws have changed since 1995 in some places.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
bear with me for a day or two, ok?
if i don't vent a bit i'll leave gray matter spontaneously spattered all over my office walls..
AGuest - Dear Nick, again peace to you and, sorry, but uh-uh, no... I ain't buyin' it. Perhaps if future MIL came on strong with the magazines... or kept pushing for a bible study... perhaps. Or if she took issue with the young lady's dress or appearance. Perhaps. But because she assigned them separate rooms? Since when is that an exclusive JW "thing"? All kinds of folks out there still adhere to that one, dear one.
Hi Nickolas, I am sorry but I must agree with AGuest. Your son should have a talk with his mom before visiting you. If his mom doesn't want him to sleep with his GF, he and his GF could just have easily stayed at a nearby hotel. I don't agree with JWs on much, and I cannot condemn them for having a personal opinion.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
some background: i am an only child, a born-in, my parents were considered superstars of the watchtower having been missionaries and "exemplary" for their entire lives.
shortly after they died in 2002, i started a very slow fade and finally stopped all meeting attendance in 2005.. both sides of the family are, with a very few exceptions, also hardcore watchtowerites as in 'if the watchtower says my green bible is purple, then it must be purple.
' i have lost touch with one side of the family almost completely but the other side has always been close to me and in particular, i miss two cousins who were like brothers to me.
Rocky_Girl - . . . At first, I sent out a newsletter to everyone in my family talking about what was going on with me and the kids, along with current photos. Some of the family sent them back, so I took them off the "send" list. The others got regular updates. . . .
Hi Eiben Scrood, I agree with Rocky_Girl about sending pictures and describing what is happening in your life to all of your family members. I would recommend sending emails instead of cards/letters, because of costs. If someone replies negatively to your emails/letters, I would still send them updates. It is better for JWs to see that life continues outside the Organization, instead of reading and believing what is written in the Watchtower/Awake! Don't be frustrated/hurt/angry about negative responses from your family members, because the WTBTS is very good at controlling the thoughts and actions of JWs. Practise unconditional love towards your family members and maybe in time your family members will realize that con-Love sucks!!
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
signs: (really amped up in the last year).
claims to "spend hours on the internet.".
recently became an ms after 3 yrs of reproof.. after a few months, stepped down and relocated.. expresses no interest in becoming ms again, calling me saying "count me in for paintball again.".
Hi Dariokehl. How about doing the following:
1) Suggest playing paintball or other fun activities that your brother loves when FS is scheduled and/or with "Worldly" people.
2) Suggest doing fun things with both your brother and his wife with other "Worldly" people.
3) Ask your brother hypothetical questions. How about, "How would he feel about shunning his children as discussed in the 15 July 2011 Watchtower?"
4) Ask your brother about going on a fun vacation when the next assembly should be scheduled.
5) Ask your brother more about his feelings about the flood.
6) Send your brother an anonymous email like I wrote about in http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/211893/1/Youe28099ve-Got-Mail-TM
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
my friends,.
i need your counsel on a personal matter, and i hope you will give it in love.
as some of you know, i was disfellowshipped six years ago, but it wasn't until june 2010 that i made up my mind never to return to the wts.
Hi Quendi. I am sorry that you lost many JW friends when you were df'ed. The easy answer is move on and make "Worldly" (i.e., normal) friends, because friendships come and go as we live and change. If you feel an overwhelming desire to rekindle your friendship then I would suggest that if you believe in Our Father that you pray that your friend follows the teachings of Jesus Chris instead of the WTBTS, if you know your friend's email address that you send your friend a short friendly email with a picture of yourself doing something that you know he would like, if you know your friend's postal address that you send him a card or note with a picture of you doing something that you know he would like to be doing, or you "accidently" meet your friend. If you know your friend's email address, you could also send him an anonymous email like I wrote about in www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/211893/1/Youe28099ve-Got-Mail-TM. If your friend does respond to you, you may want to read Steve Hassan's books (e.g., "Combatting Cult Mind Control") so that you can avoid any pitfalls that will cause your friend to yell "Apostate" and run back to the KH.
I was never a JW and have a former friend, who is a devout JW. I miss talkng and doing things with my former friend also, but it is unlikely that she will ever awaken. I am moving on in my life and I pray every day that she will follow the teachings of Jesus Christ instead of the WTBTS, because I believe in Our Father.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
ABibleStudent
