Posts by ABibleStudent

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I have no honor

by bohm in

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friends

it occured to me on my way to work this morning that the concept of honor is rather silly at best, and more often quite dangerous if you really believe you have it.. think about it, what good is honor supposed to do?.

right of the bat we can all name a number of really stupid things which are associated with honor: honor killings, for instance, where a member of the family is murdered for insulting the families honor (you wonder how the honor ever actually tells people it has been offended), or duels which was a sport between aristocrats.

then there is the honor of dead people which can linger on for centuries, a certain prophet comes to mind, and it seems even dead objects like flags, banners, documents or nations can have honor which can be invoked to kill or maim others.. what are the legitimate invocation of honor as a reason to act a certain way?

ABibleStudent

I guess I believe in the first definition of honor, " honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions: a man of honor."

Some how I do not believe that a person, who believes in honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions, would commit murder and revenge killings. Morals are what I value, my conscience gives me fedback about whether I am being moral, and my honor is whether I follow my conscience or do the opposite instead of being honorable.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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why am i wasting my time?

by RandomNoise in

ABibleStudent

Hi RandomNoise, I like your heart shaped ballon in your avitar.

Just start writing and let your emotions out.

If you are using Internet Explorer, you might want to switch to Google Chrome to post on JWN, so that your posts will appear correctly.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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New here and just sick!

by msconcerned in

jw
friends

hello, i am new and i feel soooo wrong about being here.

anyway i am an m.s and have been disillusioned ever since the new understanding that came out in october.

i have read many things on this board that i have and also have not thought about.

ABibleStudent

Welcome msconcerned, Your emotional roller-coaster has begun!

When you are ready to heal, I would recommend that you read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visiting Steve Hassan's website, and posting regularly on JWN to help you release your emotions so that don't let your emotions erupt onto unsuspecting JW family and friends.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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I have no honor

by bohm in

jw
friends

it occured to me on my way to work this morning that the concept of honor is rather silly at best, and more often quite dangerous if you really believe you have it.. think about it, what good is honor supposed to do?.

right of the bat we can all name a number of really stupid things which are associated with honor: honor killings, for instance, where a member of the family is murdered for insulting the families honor (you wonder how the honor ever actually tells people it has been offended), or duels which was a sport between aristocrats.

then there is the honor of dead people which can linger on for centuries, a certain prophet comes to mind, and it seems even dead objects like flags, banners, documents or nations can have honor which can be invoked to kill or maim others.. what are the legitimate invocation of honor as a reason to act a certain way?

ABibleStudent

Please define honor.

Is your hon·or?

1. honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions: a man of honor. 2. a source of credit or distinction: to be an honor to one's family. 3. high respect, as for worth, merit, or rank: to be held in honor. 4. such respect manifested: a memorial in honor of the dead. 5. high public esteem; fame; glory: He has earned his position of honor.

To me my honor requires me to make decisions daily that are aligned to principles that I value. If I have no principles than I would not care about my decisions nor their consequences.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Files Show how LA Church Leaders Shielded . . .

by ABibleStudent in

no it was not the wtbts.

it was the roman catholic archdiocese.

even dissention within a hierarchical organization cannot guarantee that the rights of individuals will be protected.

ABibleStudent

Just bumping to give more people a chance to read this thread in the active topic list. So far 504 views and only 4 other posters.

Are most JWN members waiting on Jehovah along with their JW family and friends to help solve life's problems?

Would it help if JWN had a forum specifically for helping JWN members to become organized to help JW family members and friends?

My inquiring mind would like to know your thoughts.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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New Member...

by sosoconfused in

jw
friends

hello everyone, just wanted to say hi and introduce myself.. i am a mid 30's just stepped aside elder, who just couldn't handle it anymore.. i am a 3rd generation born-in and former pioneer and bethelite.

it has been a log somewhat confusing ride for me, but i am finally settling in to realizing that i need to really look at what me and my family are doing.. .

its funny though what really got me here... it wasn't the 40 year old men telling me they were looking at boobies on the computer and hoping not to get in trouble, it wasn't the watching young people bail left and right, it wasn't the ever changing new light etc... but a simple thought.. .

ABibleStudent

Welcome sosoconfused, I hope that you feel better soon. You may go through an emotional rollercoaster ride before you finally feel good again.

I hope that you read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones to Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs") or visit his website to help you understand your emotions. Also, posting about your feelings and what you are experiencing in life on JWN may help you release some of your emotions.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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New Member-Active Elder

by Promitheas in

jw
friends

i'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.

i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.

some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..

ABibleStudent

Welcome Promitheas, You sound disgusted with the GB. How do you plan to control your emotions when talking with JW family members and friends? Reading and posting on JWN may increase your disgust with the GB. Since you are an elder, JWs in your congregation probably examine your actions more closely than other JWs.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Anyone here who is still a Jehovahs Witness and havent given up yet, Please answer me!

by Vienna Angelika in

jw
friends

i am wanting to connect to current jws who are going through a tough time and are going through a similar time as me.

not any jw haters, just balanced concerned jws who havent quite given up yet..

ABibleStudent

Vienna Angelika - I agree that the leaders take it WAY too far. I do not hate them, but I want to help to be part of a solution.

Welcome Vienna Angelika to JWN.

I'm not a JW. A former friend who is a "Spiritually Strong" (gag!) JW tried to recruit me into the Watchtower. I like R&F JWs and feel sorry for JWs who are victimized by the WTBTS and its leaders. Of course my former friend has accused me of not being nice to her because I disagree with the WTBTS. I feel that the WTBTS is a printing, distribution, and real estate holding corporation that uses BITE control techniques to victimizes JWs.

How do you propose to be a part of the solution when the WTBTS's leaders point a shun gun at the mind of every JW?

I have three potential solutions. All JWs stop donating money to the WTBTS and stop using WTBTS literature when conducting bible studies - just use the Bible. My third solution would be to write to politicians to pass legislation to change tax and/or charitiable organization laws to require that all tax-exempt organizations and/or organizations receiving government assistance must promote to their members to contact law enforcement immediately instead of keep quiet about felonious crimes and must not promote shunning members and former members by an organization.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Howdy from Winnipeg

by HymieAli in

jw
friends

hello everyone.. i grew up in the dauphin, mb congregation.

spent a couple years in my teens in the melita, mb one as well.. left 20 or so years ago and never been back.

now i live in winnipeg.. i imagine my story is typical.

ABibleStudent

Welcome HymieAli from So.Cal.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Any1 in Los Angeles - Hollywood Area?

by mrjdmelendez in

jw
friends

my first year in la went by fast yet at times painfully slow.

you see, i moved to la from san francisco.

i always said by the time i am in my 30's i'd be living somewhere warmer, and that i did.

ABibleStudent

Welcome mrjdmelendez to JWN. I'm glad that you are in a loving relationship, you have overcome great obstacles to get where you are now, and are free of the WTBTS.

You might ask your sister has she read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visited Steve Hassan's website, or visted JWN? Steve Hassan's latest book might help your sister the most because of her relationship with her husband.

I live in Ventura County.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert