Posts by ABibleStudent

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How to raise awareness about child abuse.

by DATA-DOG in

here's an idea.

we know the wtbts fears exposure more than anything.

so what if we made an organized, concerted effort to contact every celebrity jw that we can think of?

ABibleStudent

defender of truth - Also, here's a tip:
"Twitter assumes that if you begin your tweet with an @ reply then it is only of interest to you and the select group of your followers who also happen to be following the person you are addressing your message to.
While that may indeed be the case, it limits potential interaction between your followers who might NOT be following that individual but who might genuinely be interested in the conversation you are having with them."

Thanks for the tip defender of truth.

I hope that the tweets that I sent from https://twitter.com/nodangerousorgs do not offend anyone.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Combatting Cult Mind Control is now available at Amazon in an e-book format

by ABibleStudent in

for those who want to read steven hassan's "combatting cult mind control" in an e-book format, it is now available according to thttp://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/combating-cult-mind-control-the-1-best-selling-guide-to-protection-rescue-and-recovery-from-destructive-cults-25th-anniversary-edition-by-steven-hassan-300057048.html .

now jws can read about bite control techniques without having to hide their book - just hide it on your tablet/smartphone/computer.. i apologize it i posted this in the wrong forum.

peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.

ABibleStudent

For those who want to read Steven Hassan's "Combatting Cult Mind Control" in an e-book format, it is now available according to thttp://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/combating-cult-mind-control-the-1-best-selling-guide-to-protection-rescue-and-recovery-from-destructive-cults-25th-anniversary-edition-by-steven-hassan-300057048.html . Now JWs can read about BITE control techniques without having to hide their book - just hide it on your tablet/smartphone/computer.

I apologize it I posted this in the wrong forum.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Can you discredit "wait on jehovah to fix all evil" elder's padded line even told to victims of pedophiles?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i am sick of being told this same crap after decades of suffering at the hands of wicked men and women, how many of you have had to fight these irrational expectations we are supposed to grin and smile when people are actively trying to screw with us and elders say .

good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of jehovah (lamentations 3:26; titus 2:13).

my life in the organization has not been entirely bad, there were many good people and plenty of jerks like you all experienced in this adventure we call life.

ABibleStudent

Welcome PokerPlayerPhil, How about the following:

I'm waiting for the return of Jesus Christ as the Bible promises, but why not report crimes to the police in the mean time? How is the WTBTS better at investigating child sexual abuse than the police?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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How to raise awareness about child abuse.

by DATA-DOG in

here's an idea.

we know the wtbts fears exposure more than anything.

so what if we made an organized, concerted effort to contact every celebrity jw that we can think of?

ABibleStudent

I just tweeted Naomi Campbell the following:

@NaomiCampbell How do you feel about this PBS report https://youtu.be/hKFThyNKU1w ? I read you were a JW on www.jwfacts.com .

According to www.jwfacts.com Naomi Campbell was a JW and according to her Twitter page she is also an activist. Since I established a Twitter account as NoDangerousOrgs, I will probably send more messages to other exJWs/JWs once I am more confident about tweeting.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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How to raise awareness about child abuse.

by DATA-DOG in

here's an idea.

we know the wtbts fears exposure more than anything.

so what if we made an organized, concerted effort to contact every celebrity jw that we can think of?

ABibleStudent

Hi DATA-DOG, I like the idea! I just wonder how many ex-JWs celebrities want to forget about being a JW. It seems that the WTBTS's mind manipulation adversely manipulates ex-JWs long after they leave the WTBTS.

I would like to get ordinary ex-JWs just to support political change. I have not been very successful at getting large enough numbers of ex-JWs/non-JWs to become involved to influence politicians to support a bill that I wrote about in the thread Revise Tax Code to Protect Children from Sexual Abuse. The bill would not infringe on an individual's Constitutional rights, but would protect children from sexual abuse as well as prevent non-profit organizations from using or promoting undue influence to its members.

It seems that protecting children from sexual abuse is not as interesting as what Kim Kardasian is doing.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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I'm the one who needs to "come to his senses" ?????

by Phizzy in

i was in conversation a few weeks back with a jw i have known for at least four decades.

most of it was catching up on family stuff, he has loads of kids, some have married and produced sprogs since i left.

all news to me.. i demolished a couple of his fatuous arguments, and then he decided to scuttle away, throwing this over his shoulder as he went :.

ABibleStudent

stuckinarut2 - Great reply Robert...yet you know that the standard reply from witnesses is
"I don't need to research or debate these things, as the Governing Body has done that FOR me!"

As Outlaw showed it could be talking to a wall, but then again little seeds of doubt may some day grow.

If you said in a tone and body language of trying to help them with their sales pitch, how would JWs respond to the following:

"So, if the end is soooo soon and the need is so great, why would you bring reproach on the Watchtower by behaving like a hypocrite? If you ask non-JWs to keep an open mind then non-JWs will expect you to keep an open-mind and independently research the Watchtower using public news reports.
For instance, how do you plan to convince a non-JW that the Watchtower doesn't enable and protect pedophiles, when the Watchtower instructs JWs not to bring reproach on the Watchtower? Are you going to lie or deceive them? How would you feel if someone lied to you or tried to deceive you?
How would you explain away the recent Nightline news report [you will need to have it stored on your smartphone to snow at an appropriate time] to a non-JW? If you lie or try to deceive them, most non-JWs will do their own independent research and feel that the Watchtower is a dangerous cult because you lied to them."

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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I'm the one who needs to "come to his senses" ?????

by Phizzy in

i was in conversation a few weeks back with a jw i have known for at least four decades.

most of it was catching up on family stuff, he has loads of kids, some have married and produced sprogs since i left.

all news to me.. i demolished a couple of his fatuous arguments, and then he decided to scuttle away, throwing this over his shoulder as he went :.

ABibleStudent

Phizzy - "You want to get your head right, and get back in quick!". I could not reply, but shook my head in dissent so that he could see.

How would your friend respond to, "Why are you convinced that my thinking is wrong? (wait for a response) If you will not independently research the Watchtower's history and doctrines and critically think for yourself,, how will you prove to the other 99.99% of people on Earth that they are wrong about the Watchtower being a dangerous cult?"

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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For all still in.... fakers. Help.

by Sofia Lose in

am i alone in this feeling?

i wish i could muster the cojones needed to tell my husband "i want a divorce, move away, not be a jw anymore!".

i find myself screaming these same words over and loud inside my mind, several times a day, and yet on the outside my actions could not be more opposed to these inner feelings.. sometimes i worry that this internal conflict will cause me to go crazy.

ABibleStudent

Sofia Lose - It would hurt me emotionally to know that he lost it all because of me, so I continue to gang in there.

Welcome Sofia Lose , Instead of focusing on what your husband would lose, ask what would your husband and you gain? How does doing more for the WTBTS and being whipped to do more benefit you and your husband? There will be no WTBTS Armageddon and there will be no WTBTS paradise Earth.

You have lots of options. All you need to do is do some research, critically think for yourself, free your mind from the WTBTS's BITE control manipulation, and make your plans for a better future. If you need help, post more threads about what you are thinking or planning, and read information by cult-exit counselors like Steven Hassan (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults, and Beliefs"), visiting his website www.freedomofmind.com, or watching his videos like Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23).

Best of wishes to you and your husband.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Epic Discussion ( Confrontation ) with JW Cart People about WT Child Abuse

by flipper in

so i had about had enough of reading jw's excuses online about wt child abuse and the candace conti nightline abc video about her case.

this is a really deep burning topic to me as i'm sure it is to many of you.

so today the gloves came off.

ABibleStudent

Cofty - They asked.

Hi Cofty, So, don't tell!

Technically according to flipper, the old man said, " You are probably an apostate too ! " That is why I thought the old man was using it as a thought-stopping platitude. I only suggested a possible way of using scriptures and the WTBTS's own words to overcome the old man's use of a thought-stopping platitude.

I liked flipper saying he has JW relatives and questions to reduce initial tensions and suspicions. Once flipper handed out printouts of information, it probably triggered the old man's cult persona. I wonder if a tablet or smartphone with bookmarks to information might be less threatening than carrying printouts.

If it was me, I would probably not have printed anything out and just ask JWs simple question(s), like " If you suspected a non-JW committed child abuse, would you report the crime to the police? Why does the Watchtower direct JWs not to report child abuse to police by JWs?" If they insisted that the WTBTS doesn't do that, I would show them the NIghtline video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iUHy82un-4 on my smartphone.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Epic Discussion ( Confrontation ) with JW Cart People about WT Child Abuse

by flipper in

so i had about had enough of reading jw's excuses online about wt child abuse and the candace conti nightline abc video about her case.

this is a really deep burning topic to me as i'm sure it is to many of you.

so today the gloves came off.

ABibleStudent

Cofty - As soon as you admit you are an ex-JW it's conversation over. Either avoid the question until you have made your points or lie.

Hi cofty, I didn't say to admit that you are an ex-JW. In fact I recommend avoiding disclosing whether a person was a JW.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert