my mind was wandering last night, and i though of this as a reply to a jw.. "oh, your the people who believe 8 men in brooklyn, ny are directing the world's only true religion.".
the sentence is a fact that they can't deny, but clearly shows delusion.
any other one sentence "stingers"?.
"Who is your mediator with God?"
If they answer "Jesus Christ", ask them if they are annoited, because according to the WTBTS Jesus Christ is the mediator for the annointed and the GB is the mediator for the remaining JWs. I would rather have Jesus Christ as my mediator with God instead of 8 imperfect men in NY.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
so i learnt i can pair my laptop with my ps3 and play what is playing on my laptop on the tv.... i excitedly showed my mom and dad, and i mentioned i wanted to see "the fifth estate".... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1wb8_tcyu.
it is a movie about julian assange and wikileaks.
it opened up the conversation.
Hi ILoveTTATT, Start with Mathew and ask your mother why Jesus Christ was born Mt 1:21. If the Pharisees and Sadducces where chosen to lead the Jews by God, why would God send Jesus Christ? Were the Pharisees and Sadducces good leaders for the Jews, or did they victimize them?
Why did John the Baptist greet the Pharisees and Sadducces by calling them vipers in Mt 3: 7-12? John the Baptist foretold the importance of the Holy Spirit that Jesus Christ would later reiterate. Jesus Christ was the transition from leadership by men to guidance through the Holy Spirit.
Question what you read in the Bible and how the Pharisees and Sadducces used behavior, information, thought, and emotional control to victimize Jews.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i am currently on a business trip for a trade show in another city.
as i'm walking to the convention center, i run into 2 jw's preaching.
one is about mid 60s the other probably mid 30's.
El_Guapo - This was actually one thing that helped me wake up. A brother said that his neighbor had told him JW's are a cult. He found some info (from the Watchtower, of course.) but the neighbor wasn't convinced. So he asked me about it. I looked up the exact definition of a cult and found Steve Hassan's book. This was a shocker for me! I WAS A MEMBER OF A CULT.
Hi El_Guapo, I once told an ex-JW that the WTBTS was a F'ing cult, but he said that it wasn't. I should have said that the WTBTS is a dangerous cult, so that when he said that it isn't I could have said "You are right that it is not a religious cult, but how can you say it is not a dangerous cult?" I would have then suggested that then he read or learn about Steve Hassan's BITE model to be able to justify his opinion that the WTBTS is not a dangerous cult.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
so i learnt i can pair my laptop with my ps3 and play what is playing on my laptop on the tv.... i excitedly showed my mom and dad, and i mentioned i wanted to see "the fifth estate".... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1wb8_tcyu.
it is a movie about julian assange and wikileaks.
it opened up the conversation.
Hi ILoveTTATT, I'm glad that you are making progess with your mother. Would your mother ever agree to watch the Matrix?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i have a page on facebook and it made some controversial posts (my page is similar to the quotes website, except it translates the quotes to spanish).
i post that we believed in the cross before: meh... "thank you brother for showing us how the light has increased".
i post that we banned organ transplants and were against vaccinations: "you're an apostate!!
Hi ILoveTTATT, IMHO keep on posting what you feel you should, write from your heart, and do not devulge your personal identity.
Also, I feel that you need to be able to answer "Spiritually Strong" (non-thinking) JWs who ask you what is your objective for posting "Old Light". You could ask them a pithy question like Jesus Christ asked the chief priests of the temple in Mt 21:23-27 and whether they are a member of the GB. Although I don't have a pithy response, how would a "Spiritually Strong" (non-thinking) JW respond to the following:
I'm a JW who believes that Jehovah gave me a brain to study the scriptures and Watchtower publications like the Bereans in Acts 17:11 to discover what Jehovah wants me to do. Are you Jehovah or a member of the Watchtower GB? If you have no authority over me or other readers of this FB page, then allow us to use our brains to critically think for ourselves instead of being afraid to confront people like you who want to control how we think.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i am currently on a business trip for a trade show in another city.
as i'm walking to the convention center, i run into 2 jw's preaching.
one is about mid 60s the other probably mid 30's.
Well played El_Guapo. IMHO the more people who confront JWs in FS about shunning exJWs for no longer believing that the WTBTS has the "Truth" the better. Of course this would not work well when said to family and friends.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i have a page on facebook and it made some controversial posts (my page is similar to the quotes website, except it translates the quotes to spanish).
i post that we believed in the cross before: meh... "thank you brother for showing us how the light has increased".
i post that we banned organ transplants and were against vaccinations: "you're an apostate!!
Hi ILoveTTATT, You should be grateful for every insane post by JWs and JW apologists your website receives, because it may help a "Spiritually Weak" (still thinking) JW to see TTATT. Just respond to insane posts in a compassionate, caring, and confronting (but not argumentative) way that addresses their accusations. Banning them might be counter-productive unless they continue to repeat themselves at least two times. I would just delete the repetitious posts and state your reason as attempting to promote balanced and diverse expression of opinions.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
my mind was wandering last night, and i though of this as a reply to a jw.. "oh, your the people who believe 8 men in brooklyn, ny are directing the world's only true religion.".
the sentence is a fact that they can't deny, but clearly shows delusion.
any other one sentence "stingers"?.
When JWs use the platitude "Where else shall we go?", ask them "Don't you mean to whom shall we go?" as Simon-Peter responded to Jesus Christ in John 6:68?
I don't feel that many JWs would like God's response in Jeremiah 15:2 to the question "Where shall we go?", which is the closest match to the platitude taught by the WTBTS.
Also as a second punch, you can ask JWs why Jesus Christ did not tell his 12 disciples not to shun those disciples who deserted him in John 6:60-70. If shunning is such an important method of cleansing a congregation, I would think that Jesus Christ would have instructed his 12 disciples to no longer have contact with the ones who deserted him.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
reform of goverinig body.
transparency of their regular meetings and reports to the brotherhood.
creating a committee for biblical reforms.
How about if the WTBTS stops doing the following:
It is unlikely that the WTBTS wll make any of the aforementioned changes, because the WTBTS is a printing and distribution, and real estate holding corporation that uses BITE control techniques to victimize JWs.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i ran into 3 young sisters today.
and just talked to them about the fds 1914 and they didn't know any thing about 1799, 1874 etc.
i kept it lite and told these young lady's to look it up as i'm 30 years older than them.
Congratulations JunkYardDog for caring enough to plant seeds of doubt in JWs.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
