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  Let's settle this for once and for all...... is atheism a belief, a non-belief or an anti-belief?

  by Quillsky in

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  my opinion is that atheism is not a belief.

  it is a belief in no belief..

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  Essan

  Terry: "Being without belief or without god is the "a" in a-theism. A means "without". Theos=God."

  Clearly you haven't read the entire thread.

  No, there is no reference to "belief" in 'Athiest'. That is false.

  It means "No God", or "Without God". It's original meaning was "denial of the Gods". It does not refer to a lack of belief in God, but to a belief in the nonexistence of God or Gods. "Denial" of their existence. An atheist is not agnostic, he has taken a stance against the concept of God and against those who believe in God.

  Babies take no stance, they have no belief. Agnostics take no stance, they have no belief. Atheists take a stance - against theism. Therefore babies are not "atheists". You are a zealot Terry. Babies don't share your zeal in attacking Theism. Stop trying to co-opt newborns into your religion! LOL.

  Had you been born an atheist you probably would never have adopted Christianity. But it was your lack of any opinion on the matter that allowed a new belief to be 'installed'.

  What you call the "misidentification" of atheists is it's original and it's primary meaning. For evidence of this, read the thread.
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  SERIOUS QUESTION: just how many demons will fit inside a person?

  by Terry in

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  are demons big or little?

  do they take up space?.

  do they infest our cells and peer out like they are trapped inside a jelly bean?.

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  Essan

  Terry, sometimes I'm afraid you will study yourself right out of 'The Truth".
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  Let's settle this for once and for all...... is atheism a belief, a non-belief or an anti-belief?

  by Quillsky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my opinion is that atheism is not a belief.

  it is a belief in no belief..

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  Essan

  I think I understood your post perfectly Terry.

  "You said: "Baldness means we are WITHOUT hair. Being born bald is equivalent to being born WITHOUT belief in God."

  Absolutely, but your mistake is when you go on to equate this with 'atheism', thereby claiming all the worlds children for your 'cause'.

  Actually, there is no belief either way in newborns and no position taken in relation to a concept. So these children are perhaps proto-agnostics but certainly not 'atheists'. LOL.
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  Let's settle this for once and for all...... is atheism a belief, a non-belief or an anti-belief?

  by Quillsky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my opinion is that atheism is not a belief.

  it is a belief in no belief..

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  Essan

  We're not born believing God doesn't exist Terry, nor with a compulsion to 'convert' others to abandoning their beliefs in God.

  Therefore, newborn children are not "Atheists".

  It strikes me that making claims that newborns are atheists is a symptom of the atheists zeal to convert the world - now they are conducting forced 'infant baptisms' LOL.
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  (How the governing body) talks to the rank and file!

  by Leprechaun in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the leaders (the governing body) talk to the rank and file like they are senseless little children it makes me sick.

  its the pied piper syndrome, we dont want to offend jehovah blah blah blah, respect your body of elders and those taking the lead blah blah blah, are you keeping your selfs spotless and unblemished from the world, i have heard so much controlling and manipulative catch phrases, i swear the society must have paid a psychologist to come up with all this shit.

  (well, i got that out of my system.

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  Essan

  Yeah, it's pretty sickening once your eyes are opened to it.
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  Are you an anti-sandwhicher?

  by bohm in

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  my friend says he has a magic sandwhich.

  he says it cure cancer.

  i asked him why and he said he has a very old cookbook that says so, and because he gave it to a friend with cancer and he got better.

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  Essan

  Sandwichers and A-sandwhichers ('ass-munchers' as I playfully call them) are as bad as each other.

  Sandwhich agnostics rule all! :)
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  Let's settle this for once and for all...... is atheism a belief, a non-belief or an anti-belief?

  by Quillsky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my opinion is that atheism is not a belief.

  it is a belief in no belief..

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  Essan

  "I think the most sense that I've come across in speaking with atheists is when they say "There is no way for us to know if there is a God or not". At least with that statement, you are saying that you cannot PROVE that there is not a God. But you also cannot PROVE that there is a God."

  And with that statement they reveal that they are not actually atheists, but are agnostics, even if they are not informed enough to realize it.
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  Jesus warned us about JWs!

  by 3Mozzies in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 21:8. .

  american standard version (asv).

  he said, watch out that you dont get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, i am he , and, the time is at hand.

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  Essan

  Interesting quotes Peacedog. The more I examine JW history and doctrine the more it becomes glaringly obvious that they really aren't Christians at all. Not even close.

  What a sham.
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  Jesus warned us about JWs!

  by 3Mozzies in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 21:8. .

  american standard version (asv).

  he said, watch out that you dont get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, i am he , and, the time is at hand.

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  Essan

  LOL I have 'post envy'. :)

  Powerful OP.

  As someone rightly said, that would make a fantastic billboard - the Bible quotes, the picture of the book and some simple text below it, something along the lines of. "Beware of Jehovah's Witnesses".
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  did wt shut doors 9/11?

  by topanga in

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  2. friends

  is it true because all of those tunnels dinning rooms factories and supermarkets could be of great help to the community in a time of attack.

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  Essan

  I hate it when that happens LOL.