for those of you who haven't attempted to read or just haven't been able to obtain a copy of crisis of conscience by former gb member raymond franz, if you're interested, here's a link to an audio playlist reading of it:.
playlist.
this person has made it his goal to put into audio form raymond franz's book.
Wow that is awesome .... somebody was sure dedicated to exposing the real scoop on all this. A big thank you!
Thanks Doc for finding and posting this. I was looking over my shoulder in 2009 when I bought C of C, scared me silly at first....so this will be a great help for jws just waking up!
clarity
just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
Hi Ricky ......saw your interview some time ago, glad you are still with us. Wt punishment is sickly brutal ....no mercy! Welcome addition to jwn, great to have you.
Hang in there ....here's hoping things get better for all of us.
clarity
the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.
but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.
the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.
the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.
but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.
the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.
My understanding is that this unheard of behavior (in wt) was last year ...probably to herald in the new JW.org blue & white watchtower insignia. After that is when it was plastered all over (my old hall 5 of them) the kh. Now there are flags flying at the CONvention in Switzerland with JW.org
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/371390001/jw-org-flags-r-c?size=20&page=1
Still haven't confirmed for sure that this is not photo shopped tho.
Wow this stuff makes me so angry!
clarity
soliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
One good thing ....... at least you know the source of the problem.
You are not ignorant about why you are miserable & frustrated. The enemy is not your mate. You will not go on for years and finally divorce because you are so strung out from trying to make 'this religion right'. Blaming each other for being spiritually weak, for being 'lazy', for not fitting in. You do know who the enemy is!
From someone who lost so much a long time ago & didn't have a clue.
clarity
i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.
i am living and trying to live as if this is it.
i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.
I would be pissed!
i hope everyone is having a good saturday.
i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!
needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.
Welcome to you and your family Marie! Leaving a cult is very exhausting, it takes huge energy to escape & drop all that mind screw. You guys will feel as though you are on a rollercoaster ride with all the ups & downs, the big highs & the disturbing lows. You are heading out on a path called FREEDOM! Congratulations.
clarity
i've spent the last 6 months or so really in depth into ttatt, really angry at times, cursing the cult that is the wts led by the fds, and today i feel like i've found a new fire.
i'd been completely opposed to listening to anything to do with the organization, but today i watched the brie video on youtube, young high school girl pouring her heart out in opposition of the wts and its practices.. from there, i found jwstruggle on youtube, johncedars, and derekohare... it's just a wonderful thing finding people willing to out the wts for what it is.
i had felt such anger, like, they're getting away with their bologna, but to see people like this making stands against the wts is an amazing source of hope.. besides forums such as this, what have you found that helped you?.
I am retired so I really like the chatty style of kim & mike. They are funny, down-home & have brilliant ways of explaining the crazy stuff.
I enjoy your posts The_ Doctor10 keep digging & posting!
righto poppickers.
as some of you know, i have been putting together a book of interviews and humour.
it is designed (i hope), soften the blow for those inside the wbt$ who want to escape and also prove to those that have left that they are not alone.. anyway.
10/8/93 awake article about child abuse misconceptions, checkout the second misconception: children fantasize or lie about abuse.. this article notes how it's extremely unlikely that children lie in cases of abuse (95% in some estimates are truthful) and how even among the ones who lie it's usually when they make a claim (in truth) but then subsequently lie and say it didn't happen, when in actuality, it did.. given this knowledge, why the two witness rule?
95% odds that the child who claims abuse is telling the truth by the awakes own admission, that should be more than enough to change policies of the wts.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g19931008/about-child-abuse/#?insight%5bsearch_id%5d=8d161c40-c4d0-4ddb-aadf-bcf2b480d55b&insight%5bsearch_result_index%5d=0.
The highlight of this other watchtower essentially is that the abused should forgive the abuser, kiss, hug and forget about the whole thing.
Neverajw...that is the one I remember too! Trying to remember the year.... early 2002, 2003?
