warning: this is rather lengthy.
i thought i would post this information that i took with me to my judicial committee.
the elders promised that we would talk about everything that was bothering me, yet, we ended up talking about less than 10% of it.
Wow! Fabulous solid information that you put together. Thanks for posting it. Yes I did start skimming after about 4 minutes but did reach the ending! ;-) Do I still get a high5.
You must have just blown their minds, bet they couldn't get away fast enough! hahah
You put them to shame my friend!
clarity
let the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
Oh how clever .........push for donations to build "much needed" KHs and after they sucker-in and skim off all the millions ........... change their tune to "you fools can just scrunch up & start sharing the KH's we already gave you with all our undeserved kindness!" Oh ...and keep sending more dough.
Because we just want to "conserve donated funds".
in the article on the guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon ) mentioned in another thread, there's this quote of mark omalley, who is assigned to the public information desk at the jehovahs witness uk centre in north london.
we now have more than 165,000 [literature] carts on the streets in over 50 countries.
it gives us visibility and availability.
Knocking on doors put witnesses up close & personal with the householder. There you are face to face ........now what? You must speak! Your brain must put out information. You must make some sense and be able to explain & show how you are right etc.
Cart stuff ....not so much. IF asked a question ....just refer them to jw.org.
NEWS FLASH .... watchtower crap is totally unexplainable now! Wt had to put distance btw the dub & worldly persons! They even stand away from the bloody cart!!!!! Not up close & personal anymore ....... because Watchtower doesn't want to get caught out...NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND or EXPLAIN wt crap anymore!
clarity
i served for years as an elder in london ontario.
finally stepped aside because of the old boy network, elders covering up for one another, practice of elders and their wives party times with excessive use of alcohol.
the elders families getting slaps on the wrist for major sins.
OOOH ...sounds like you were just dismissed or something along that line! Maybe Doc is looking out for you and doesn't want you to waste anymore time on watchtower! Well none of us should dwell too long on it... but love your post, sounds like your experiences are pretty interesting. As a woman I was not privy to a whole bunch of 'old boy stuff'. So after waking-up it has been quite a peek into this exclusive club. It kind of levels the playing field to hear the truth about these leaders, elders, princes', dukes etc.
clarity
for those of you who haven't attempted to read or just haven't been able to obtain a copy of crisis of conscience by former gb member raymond franz, if you're interested, here's a link to an audio playlist reading of it:.
playlist.
this person has made it his goal to put into audio form raymond franz's book.
Wow that is awesome .... somebody was sure dedicated to exposing the real scoop on all this. A big thank you!
Thanks Doc for finding and posting this. I was looking over my shoulder in 2009 when I bought C of C, scared me silly at first....so this will be a great help for jws just waking up!
clarity
just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
Hi Ricky ......saw your interview some time ago, glad you are still with us. Wt punishment is sickly brutal ....no mercy! Welcome addition to jwn, great to have you.
Hang in there ....here's hoping things get better for all of us.
clarity
the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.
but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.
the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.
the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.
but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.
the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.
My understanding is that this unheard of behavior (in wt) was last year ...probably to herald in the new JW.org blue & white watchtower insignia. After that is when it was plastered all over (my old hall 5 of them) the kh. Now there are flags flying at the CONvention in Switzerland with JW.org
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/371390001/jw-org-flags-r-c?size=20&page=1
Still haven't confirmed for sure that this is not photo shopped tho.
Wow this stuff makes me so angry!
clarity
soliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
One good thing ....... at least you know the source of the problem.
You are not ignorant about why you are miserable & frustrated. The enemy is not your mate. You will not go on for years and finally divorce because you are so strung out from trying to make 'this religion right'. Blaming each other for being spiritually weak, for being 'lazy', for not fitting in. You do know who the enemy is!
From someone who lost so much a long time ago & didn't have a clue.
clarity
i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.
i am living and trying to live as if this is it.
i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.
I would be pissed!
