Shattered ....a quick hello & big welcome. You are so young, start living your life & drop the guilt & fear.....you don't owe those men anything. The only power they have is when a fool does what they say.
All the best
clarity
i joined the forum yesterday and made 2 angry posts which received encouraging replies.
i spent a good chunk of time today browsing various posts, and i can't get enough!
i'm doing things backwards now and taking a moment to introduce myself.
Shattered ....a quick hello & big welcome. You are so young, start living your life & drop the guilt & fear.....you don't owe those men anything. The only power they have is when a fool does what they say.
All the best
clarity
the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
Cofty .......thanks for your come back ......a keeper!
"
Anne wrote and kindly reminded her mother that she had cut herself off from the family
Imagine an abusive husband who told his wife that if she left him he would hunt her down and kill her. She leaves and he carries out his threat.
In court the husband's defense is that the wife chose the outcome.
This is the twisted logic of shunning.
clarity
i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.
we both served as elders for years.
he is in his late 70s.
"My friend made it very plain when he invited me, that if I didn’t believe in the Bible and its promise of a New Earth, then this meeting wasn’t for me and I should look elsewhere."
I am getting the feeling that us oldies with a renegade spirit would fit much better in the younger groups, because if I had to believe in the bible & paradise, with or without the GB at the helm ...I would be out of there!
Thanks for putting this topic up John....very interesting.
Magnum are you in the UK ? I am in Canada.
clarity
i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.
we both served as elders for years.
he is in his late 70s.
Once the old remnants of the WT organization are GONE, then that will be the day when the WT will close its doors and open a NEW Religious organization
*I have felt for a long time that wt can't wait for us oldies to kick off! As long as we are here ..there is still a dangerous voice that knows where 'the bodies are buried'.
One problem is the pre shunning thing....... it scares us enough that we don't admit openly what we really think. On top of everything else our grandchildren are held over our heads. Big price to pay.
I am pretty open & am shunned for it ....no one has approached me except younger jdubs.
Would love to find a group who were in that day of blitzes & preparation before 1975, who sat in the hot bleachers for a whole week convention, who worked at d2d and only counted those exact minutes.
clarity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4z2-sf4ky.
" I can not even stand to watch his ugly face! It makes me so angry I want to stab my pillow"
Kind of makes me want to ........slap him silly oh wait .......he ls totally silly already!
there were at least four jw's to one lone man on the street.
they look to be mostly elders.
if they are ... is this the example they really want to set.
Hi Finkel ....no problem, thanks for posting
clarity
okay, so yes, i'm a born-in, but this point has always baffled me (and i guess i never bothered to research or ask).
what is the purpose of counting time in service?
when was it started and why?
One of the hardest craziness to stop ...'cause then they will know.
High numbers = A list ..... It buys popularity & advancement.
there were at least four jw's to one lone man on the street.
they look to be mostly elders.
if they are ... is this the example they really want to set.
Ohh .. love all you dear people on here, thanks for all the comments.
Hey Magnum..... we were sincerely trying to get our time in ... that was the bottom line!
Yes they walked away like children.
clarity
there were at least four jw's to one lone man on the street.
they look to be mostly elders.
if they are ... is this the example they really want to set.
Oh gee you guys ...sorry I gave you the wrong impression, this is not my video!
Not my video but saw it & was astounded at their cowardice.
Look I am (just according to wt)... a woman. and honestly if it were me preaching vigorously on a street trying to save lives ......that "apostate's" approach would not make me run away! Those 3 or 4 men failed to show who they were trusting in & had a chance to help this guy. You can bet they were still counting the time ! Those men were not even friendly or civil when the Apostate approached them.
If they want to just stand there like a sign post........they should put up a sign that says "go away....we aren't talking!"
OK maybe next time I'll tell ya what I really think! haha
clarity
She has MONEY, which in jw land is better than spirituality!
So really not much will happen ....might have to say she is sorry and of course she will have to wipe that smile off her face!
clarity