Thanks for the link Listener. I don't consider myself to be a Christian, however I will profess that I do believe a lot of what Christ taught is absolutely beautiful, and that I am brought to tears many times by reading the Gospels, and much of the New Testament. I just cannot stand behind the idea of being judged for eternity, based on what we chose to believe in a very short lifetime - it's actually one of the things I began to question growing up as a Witness from a very early age. How can Jesus, giving such a beautiful message of love, also teach something that is so hateful? It makes no sense to me.
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Sins Against The Holy Spirit...
by Merkaba ini remember reading an excerpt of a court case recently wherein a gb member was being questioned by a counselor in a court case.
one of the questions was on the topic of "unpardonable sins".
the gb member was asked by the legal counsel if there was a transgression that would disfellowship a member of the congregation whereupon they would not be allowed to be reinstated.
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Sins Against The Holy Spirit...
by Merkaba ini remember reading an excerpt of a court case recently wherein a gb member was being questioned by a counselor in a court case.
one of the questions was on the topic of "unpardonable sins".
the gb member was asked by the legal counsel if there was a transgression that would disfellowship a member of the congregation whereupon they would not be allowed to be reinstated.
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Merkaba
blondie,
indeed it is, and I was reading that from In Search of Christian Freedom - Thanks for clearing that up.
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Sins Against The Holy Spirit...
by Merkaba ini remember reading an excerpt of a court case recently wherein a gb member was being questioned by a counselor in a court case.
one of the questions was on the topic of "unpardonable sins".
the gb member was asked by the legal counsel if there was a transgression that would disfellowship a member of the congregation whereupon they would not be allowed to be reinstated.
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Merkaba
I remember reading an excerpt of a court case recently wherein a GB member was being questioned by a counselor in a court case. One of the questions was on the topic of "unpardonable sins". The GB member was asked by the legal counsel if there was a transgression that would disfellowship a member of the congregation whereupon they would not be allowed to be reinstated. The GB member (I believe it was Fred Franz) that sins against the holy spirit would not be pardoned, and that anyone commiting said sins would never be allowed back in the congregation.
My question is: What exactly is a sin against the Holy Spirit. I know its mentioned in scripture somewhere, but no one has ever explained to me what this is exactly, and I don't think its spoken of very frequently within Club J-Dub.
Anyone know?
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What did you/do you think about at the meetings?
by tornapart inif you still go or remember the days when you did what did you think about while you were sat there?
obviously it's very difficult to concentrate.. lol..assemblies i find impossible and have often drifted off to sleep, listening to the endless same old stuff.. .
and i want some funny stories.. .
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Why Jehovah was waiting so long to let kids play with animals.
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Who's misleadin' the sheep ????????
by wasblind in" like the apostles of jesus christ, they have at times.
had some wrong expectations " ..........reasoning book page 136. .
".......... it is true that the witnesses have made mistakes in their.
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OP, what really makes me upset is that I didn't notice a lot of this stuff earlier when I was growing up as a Witness. It took me into my late teens to start to pick up on the fact that there was something fishy going on. I'm just glad that I did, and that I didn't spend my adult life going door-to-door and hanging out with a group of duds.
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WTBTS Doctrinal Help
by Merkaba ini'm trying to compile a list of j-dub beliefs that are not solidlysupported by scripture - examples: abstaining from wearing beards, "door-to-door" witnessing, hierarchical authority structure.... can you guys help me out with some that stand out to you?.
thanks in advance!.
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I really appreciated something I read on Marvin Shilmer's blog regarding the blood doctrine. The GB decreed that the Bible does not directly comment on organ transplantation so it is thereby not condemned, BUT neither is blood - any scriptural "support" they use in this doctrine is based on scriptures that talk about EATING blood. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen a blood transplant wherein the recipient eats the blood.
Something that really stood out to me when I read Crisis in Conscience was when the GB put eight doctrinal points in front of Ray Franz when he appeared at their inquisition, and asked him what his viewpoint on these dogmatic principles were and he concluded that not one of them "could be supported by simple, clear-cut statements in Scripture".
I remember struggling with that when I was a Witness. Struggling with these dogmas that were cornerstones to Witness belief. Dogmas that were staple in the J-Dub diet, yet in order to be supported scripturally it was almost as if you were trying to put a piece in a jigsaw puzzle that you knew didn't fit, but it was good enough to complete the picture. You could shove that puzzle piece in there, but in the back of your mind you knew that you had cheated to make the whole picture work. It was little points like these when I was in "the troof" that I just simply could not get around, and they eventually led to me just completely dropping the faith altogether. Witnesses give a new meaning to the word "faith".
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WTS successfully counters claims it is a "false prophet"
by trthskr ingreetings.. http://www.jehovah.to/xlation/fp.html.
"do not interpretations belong to god?".
but as the saying goes; you can never satisfy a critic.. .
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The difference between the average Joe saying something false, and the WTBTS saying something false is that the average Joe's comments doesn't affect 7 million people's lives.
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More bad press for the Organisation in the UK !
by Hairyhegoat ini am sick of reading news stories like this .
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Merkaba
By their fruits you will come to know them...
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WTBTS Doctrinal Help
by Merkaba ini'm trying to compile a list of j-dub beliefs that are not solidlysupported by scripture - examples: abstaining from wearing beards, "door-to-door" witnessing, hierarchical authority structure.... can you guys help me out with some that stand out to you?.
thanks in advance!.
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Merkaba
I'm trying to compile a list of J-Dub beliefs that are not solidlysupported by scripture - Examples: Abstaining from wearing beards, "door-to-door" witnessing, hierarchical authority structure...
Can you guys help me out with some that stand out to you?
Thanks in advance!
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Why so defensive? (CHRISTIANS ONLY)
by besty inthe wife and kids and i were round for dinner last night at some good friends of ours - very informal and relaxed.
we have been there many times and its home from home.. they have 2 boys same as us, and they also had another friend (jane) over with her 3 boys - as both dad;s from each parent couple were out of town it was me and sam and the 2 mums + 7 boys under 7 to take care of.
cue another glass of wine please.. eating outside in the front yard, kids playing on the walk street, sunset in the background - you get the idea.. so it turns out jane (who is a very confident, outgoing, successful businesswoman, and attorney) is from texas, and very proud of that - rightly so - but lives in la.
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I meant to say that SOME docs are biased - not all.