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Shun Run 2013

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am the organizer of the chandler, az ex-jw meetup group.

last year our group organized a "shun run".

nine of us walked and ran to bring attention to the issue of shunning.

Thanks. Indeed, here on the forum and elsewhere there are alternative to the propaganda a JW Bible Study would otherwise get from his or her teacher. Personally I feel strongly about freedom of religion and respect the rights of the Witnesses. I merely ask them to consider changing their policies to align better with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. I have family members who remain in the faith and to the extent they allow, I continue with a respectful relationship. In fact, I continue to attend the memorial for that very reason. Just-so stories some in the faith might tell about how Ex-JWs feel is often silly -- we're individuals. It is of course true that some of the anti-Family, anti-Blood, anti-Religion and anti-Goverment stance and rhetoric of the faith has unfortunately lead to persecution. Alas, it is the individual Witnesses in countries like Russia and elsewhere who bear the burden of such persecution, while the leaders at HQs merely make the policy.

Cheers,

-Randy

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Shun Run 2013

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am the organizer of the chandler, az ex-jw meetup group.

last year our group organized a "shun run".

nine of us walked and ran to bring attention to the issue of shunning.

rawe

Hi Steve2,

Last year when we did the Shun Run we did a loop around the Casa Grande Assembly Hall. Like this year it was the Sunday prior to memorial, so I thought their would be a good chance no one would be using the Assembly Hall that day. Alas, there was -- a Spanish group! Although my family was a bit unsettled by this I approached, one of the attendants and discussed our plans and agreed to respect their property line. Well... I was then quite surprised when we headed back to our starting point about 1.5 miles away to get organized and when a Pima County Sherrif Deputy showed up! She was actually very nice and just told us to respect their property, not impede traffic and be careful.

About 1/2 the group ran in a loop. When we got the Assembly Hall we were running past on the road, you see the attendants trying to hide behind pillars watching and moving along with us ;-)

Of course how people feel is beyond my control, all I can do is express what the real purpose of the event is. It is not to embarass Jehovah's Witnesses or protest one of their meetings, etc. The walking trail on Papago Park is a public trail and I don't think there is a Kingdom Hall even close to the downtown area of Phoenix where the library is. No, the real purpose is to help the ex-JW community, by showing one can speak up, be respectful and even have fun while you're at it.

Cheers,

-Randy

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Shun Run 2013

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am the organizer of the chandler, az ex-jw meetup group.

last year our group organized a "shun run".

nine of us walked and ran to bring attention to the issue of shunning.

rawe

Hi Clarity,

I am original from Canada. Grew up in and around Quesnel, BC, before moving to Phoenix in 1998. Left the faith in 2007 after 27 years of deep involvement, became USA citizens in 2010, living life since then. If you ever head down our way, please feel free to give us a shout. I most often post on the Yuku Ex-JW recovery forum.

Cheers,

-Randy

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Shun Run 2013

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am the organizer of the chandler, az ex-jw meetup group.

last year our group organized a "shun run".

nine of us walked and ran to bring attention to the issue of shunning.

rawe

Hi Gayle,

Thanks! I sent a note both to the Chandler Ex-JW and West Phoenix Ex-JW mailing lists. The Chandler group will be having our regular meetup on the 6th, however I plan on being at the West Phoenix on the 20th as well. It will be great to see you guys again!

Cheers,

-Randy

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Shun Run 2013

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am the organizer of the chandler, az ex-jw meetup group.

last year our group organized a "shun run".

nine of us walked and ran to bring attention to the issue of shunning.

rawe

Hi Everyone,

I am the organizer of the Chandler, AZ Ex-JW meetup group. Last year our group organized a "Shun Run". Nine of us walked and ran to bring attention to the issue of shunning. I have been finalizing the details of this year's event. On Sunday, March 24th, 2013 (the Sunday before memorial) we will be meeting at noon at Papago Park in Phoenix. The Double Butte Loop walking trail is 2.3 miles through this lovely desert park. There is also a shorter loop for those who do not want to walk as far.

Afterwards the group will be invited to head down to the Phoenix Public Library where I have rented the "Lecture Room" for one hour from 2:00pm to 3:00pm. I am hoping to arrange for 4 or so speakers. I am planning on sending an invitation to the congregation closest to the library so they can provide a speaker to defend the shunning policies of Jehovah's Witnesses. Naturally I expect they will ignore us -- but if they did want to defend their faith, we'll give them the opportunity.

More details can be found on my post at the Ex-JW Forum on Yuku: http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/topic/25386

Hope to see you there!

Cheers,

-Randy

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Shun Run/Walk 2012

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am planning a public awareness event for april 1, 2012, i calling "shun run/walk 2012" to draw attention to shunning policies of jehovah's witnesses.

i use to help out as a moderator on the ex-jehovah's witness recovery forum on yuku, so this is a cross post from that site.

what you'll see below is a letter i have sent to "sdb:ssy", the otherwise anonymous jw author from us branch who wrote me.

rawe

Hi Everyone,

I'm posting to give this thread one last booster.

What: Shun Run/Walk 2012 - [i]Coping for Today, Hoping for Tomorrow.[/i]
When: Sunday, April 1st, 2012 at 10am
Where: W Woodruff Rd & N Overfield Rd, Coolidge AZ
Link: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=W+Woodruff+Rd+and+N+Overfield+Rd,+Coolidge+AZ&hl=en&ll=32.952711,-111.651027&spn=0.006905,0.009645&sll=32.943393,-111.653624&sspn=0.027623,0.054932&hnear=N+Overfield+Rd+%26+W+Woodruff+Rd,+Casa+Grande,+Arizona+85194&t=m&z=17

FAQ:
Q. What is this?
A. A small group of ex-JWs, ex-LDS and Atheists will walk or run 2.9 miles to raise awareness of the harm caused by religious shunning.

Q. Must I run?
A. No, you can walk -- plan on about 1hr

Q. Must I walk?
A. No, you can meet us on the road outside the Assembly Hall: 6627 North Azurite Way, Casa Grande, AZ 85194

Q. Is this a protest march?
A. Not really. We recognize that Jehovah's Witnesses, like others, enjoy freedom of religion. We also know most Witnesses would not choose to shun friends and family members of their own accord. Instead as former members we recognize current members for the most part are responding to the religious influence of Governing Body.

Q. What do you hope to accomplish?
A. We hope to be of encouragement to at least a few former members who have left, perhaps are shunned, but are still in fear of speaking up.

Q. Can I have a T shirt?
A. Maybe. I have had 12 T shirts made up and some are already spoken for. Otherwise I will hand them out on a first come first serve basis to any who participate.

Q. Will you do this again?
A. I hope so. I would like to run this event on the Sunday closest to the memorial each year.

Cheers,
-Randy

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Shun Run/Walk 2012

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am planning a public awareness event for april 1, 2012, i calling "shun run/walk 2012" to draw attention to shunning policies of jehovah's witnesses.

i use to help out as a moderator on the ex-jehovah's witness recovery forum on yuku, so this is a cross post from that site.

what you'll see below is a letter i have sent to "sdb:ssy", the otherwise anonymous jw author from us branch who wrote me.

rawe

Hi Everyone,

This was an email I sent to members of the ex-JW Chandler meet up...

Hard to believe -- but April 1st is just two weeks away. I did a couple things to prepare for our Shun Run/Walk 2012. First me and my 2nd oldest dropped by Brand X and designed a T shirt that will say "Shun Run/Walk 2012" on the front and "Coping for today, Hoping for Tomorrow" on the back. I bought twelve of them and will hand them out on a first come first served basis. You are welcome to contribute to help defer the cost -- but you are absolutely not required to do so.

My wife and I drove out to Coolidge/Casa Grande to drive the walk and check out what may be available for parking. As far as we can see parking at the college would put your car at risk of being towed. But I did stop and talk to the owner of the "Stop By Market" and she said we would be welcome to park on the dirt area beside her store. If you do so, it might be a kind gesture to stop in and buy something (you must use cash if you purchase less than $10).

Most of the road looked quiet with only a few spots where the shoulder narrows. Nonetheless we all must be careful to make sure we are both visible and off to the side as much as possible. The sign for the assembly hall is right at the corner, so it should make a nice background for any photos/videos we take. Please be careful not trespass on their property.

My wife also had this idea for those who feel they can not walk the distance. They could drive ahead and wait at the assembly hall to welcome the walkers as they turn the corner.

Today it is raining so please keep a check on the weather before leaving. Having something for rain may be a good idea. The area around the college and assembly hall is rural and I did not see anything that would disallow bringing a dog. If you do decide to do that, make sure to have a plastic bag to clean up. And of course you would only want to bring your dog if he or she is well known to interact with other dogs positively and is up to date on shots and whatnot.

I must add the disclaimer that while Jehovah's Witnesses take great pride in how organized they are -- we are not like that. Rather the organization of this event is rather loose, based on the idea each participant can be trusted to make their own good choices. Afterwards for example some may leave and call it a day, while others may find some place to go and eat and reflect on the day. That is up to you. Above all, stand up for yourself and others to say it is okay to leave Jehovah's Witnesses. Also, it is neither fair nor just for religious leaders to cruelly manipulate the emotions and loyalties of those under their influence.

Cheers,
-Randy

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Shun Run/Walk 2012

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am planning a public awareness event for april 1, 2012, i calling "shun run/walk 2012" to draw attention to shunning policies of jehovah's witnesses.

i use to help out as a moderator on the ex-jehovah's witness recovery forum on yuku, so this is a cross post from that site.

what you'll see below is a letter i have sent to "sdb:ssy", the otherwise anonymous jw author from us branch who wrote me.

rawe

If you would like to join us on our Shun Run/Walk 2012, the group will meet at 10am on Sunday April 1 st , 2012 at the Central Arizona College. We will walk from there to Casa Grande Assembly Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses. The walk will be about 2.9 miles and should take one hour to walk at a moderate pace.

The direction as per Google maps is:

Central Arizona College

8470 North Overfield Road

Coolidge, Arizona 85128

1. Head southeast on N Overfield Rd 0.3 mi

2. Turn right onto W Woodruff Rd 1.0 mi

3. Turn left onto N Weaver Rd 0.9 mi

4. Turn left onto W McCartney Rd 0.5 mi

5. Turn left onto N Azurite Way

Destination will be on the right 0.1 mi

Casa Grande Assembly Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses

6627 North Azurite Way

Casa Grande, AZ 85194

As a reminder if you choose to join us, please keep in mind the main focus of this public awareness event is to be of encouragement to those who have left the faith and are currently facing shunning. By putting a public face on who really is the target of such shunning we can show that we are not individuals who would brazenly claim to be Christians while fornicating with our step mother ( 1 Corinthians 5 : 1 ), nor are we “mentally diseased” ( 1 Timothy 6 : 4 ), nor are we unrepentant practicer of stealing, lying or drunkenness. No! Rather we know full well the real issue at hand – those who seek to have religious control over others find loyalty between family and friends one of the most threatening things.

We also plan to both respect the seriousness of the issue at hand, while still having fun and enjoying the walk. Hope to see you there!

Cheers,

-Randy

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Shun Run/Walk 2012

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am planning a public awareness event for april 1, 2012, i calling "shun run/walk 2012" to draw attention to shunning policies of jehovah's witnesses.

i use to help out as a moderator on the ex-jehovah's witness recovery forum on yuku, so this is a cross post from that site.

what you'll see below is a letter i have sent to "sdb:ssy", the otherwise anonymous jw author from us branch who wrote me.

rawe

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the all the encouragement. I have never been inclined to take such issues into the public sphere. But when I see how deep the indoctrination bites, even in those who have left it has motivated me to do something -- something that is both fun and positive, yet still reflects the serious issue at hand. As I mention in the letter to SDB:SSY the primary goal to to be of encouragement to ex-JWs. Just to show a couple things, that (a) what is said about folks who leave is often a "just-so" story that doesn't reflect reality and (b) it is okay to stand up and speak the truth about the real harm this policy brings into peoples lifes (for both the shunned and the one doing the shunning).

At first I called the event "Shun Run", but found the emphasis on "running" was distracting, as if you weren't a runner you couldn't participate. Hence the Run/Walk. Certainly we'll run/walk side-by-side in solidarity, not running away from each other ;-)

I don't know how many may come out, but if it is only a few, that is totally okay. If it is more, well that's good too. I know a couple of the moderators on yuku said they may hold an event in their area too. If they do, we'll then have one in England, one here in the USA and one in Australia. Since April 1 is just a few days before memorial it should be a good time to raise awareness of issue like this.

I'll come back and post exact details as they are determined.

Cheers,

-Randy

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Shun Run/Walk 2012

by rawe in

jw
friends

i am planning a public awareness event for april 1, 2012, i calling "shun run/walk 2012" to draw attention to shunning policies of jehovah's witnesses.

i use to help out as a moderator on the ex-jehovah's witness recovery forum on yuku, so this is a cross post from that site.

what you'll see below is a letter i have sent to "sdb:ssy", the otherwise anonymous jw author from us branch who wrote me.

rawe

Hi Everyone,

I am planning a public awareness event for April 1, 2012, I calling "Shun Run/Walk 2012" to draw attention to shunning policies of Jehovah's Witnesses. I use to help out as a moderator on the ex-Jehovah's Witness Recovery Forum on yuku, so this is a cross post from that site. What you'll see below is a letter I have sent to "SDB:SSY", the otherwise anonymous JW author from US branch who wrote me. Any who would like to join in are certainly welcome. We are asking those that do to be warm and friendly and of course lawful in all that is done.

Shun Run/Walk 2012

Coping for Today, Hoping for Tomorrow

Mr. SDB:SSY

Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

2821 Route 22, Patterson, NY

12563-2237

Dear Mr. SDB:SSY:

This letter is provided as a courtesy in advance of a public awareness event I am planning for Sunday, April 1, 2012. I am calling this event "Shun Run/Walk 2012" to draw attention to shunning policies of Jehovah's Witnesses. The plan calls for a three mile circular walk/run on the public land near the Casa Grande Assembly Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses here in the state of Arizona.

I can confirm two walkers for the event (Zechariah 4:10). Myself and friend who is a former member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will be walking. As others become aware of our plans they too may join us. The intent of this event is not to embarrass Jehovah's Witnesses. Instead, I hope to be of encouragement to members of the ex-Jehovah's Witnesses community. Authors of The Watchtower and jw-media.org have sought to portray any who are shunned and critical of such as "mentally diseased"1 (1 Timothy 6:4) or unrepentant practicer of stealing, drunkenness or adultery2 (1 Corinthians 5:11). In reality many who leave do so, not for lack of moral fiber or sanity, but most reluctantly after discovering the awful truth, that many of the claims of the faith are not truly supported by evidence.

Once again I give you an opportunity to answer the following. I originally posed this question in my letter of June 30, 2010 then again on January 15, 2011.

Again, I ask your leadership to reflect on these policies. If there ever was a case of an individual being pursued in a punitive way simply for leaving the faith, it would be my case. If I am wrong in my views, please explain how anyone can leave the faith without being labeled "wicked" (1 Corinthians 5:13), short of continuing year-after-year to live by some undefined subset of the rules that govern active members.

Continuing to remain silent in effect gives an answer. I am reminded of words of 1 John 4:18-21:

There is no fear in love, but perfect love throws fear outside, because fear exercises a restraint. Indeed, he that is under fear has not been made perfect in love. As for us, we love, because he first loved us.

If anyone makes the statement: "I love God," and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving God, whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from him, that the one who loves God should be loving his brother also.

Neither you nor I have seen God, yet we are all brothers - the evidence is in our DNA. Providing leadership for millions of Christians worldwide could, no doubt, make one fearful. Yet, in the spirit of these words, I ask you to throw such fear outside. Do not be afraid to let those who wish to leave do so without breathing threats of being cut-off by family members. Rather than demand unquestioned obedience to the dictates of a secretive "judicial committee," do not be afraid to let your members be guided by their own conscience as they contemplate the application of scripture in their lives (1 Timothy 3:9). Above all, do not demand of anyone that they should hate their brother!

Yours sincerely,

Randy Galbraith

cc: Casa Grande Assembly Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses

Casa Grande Police Department

1 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8791196/Police-inquiry-over-Jehovahs-Witness-magazine-mentally-diseased-article.html

2 http://www.jw-media.org/aboutjw/article41.htm#shun