So you willingly flaunt Jehovah's own council? What, it doesn't apply to you?
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 inthis is the main series playlist:.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.
this is the accompanying video appendix:.
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A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC
by Londo111 inthis is the main series playlist:.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.
this is the accompanying video appendix:.
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So, why again is has someone who is obviously a true believing Witness been conversing and arguing with apostates for 12 years now in direct opposition to Jehovah's own guidance as given through the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
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DC: apostates are the Anti-Christ
by under_believer inthe more you know, i guess.. also, they used a metaphor likening them to known sex offenders.
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good times over here in day 2. .
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Also the apostate's main goal is to achieve prominence and attention.
They've been claiming that for as long as I can remember. When I was "in", I believed that all apostates were out starting their own churches so they could get their own following.
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Nice tid bit for those JW's that say Catholics are NOT Christian
by sinis inin fact, it would seem that christianity was from the very beginning catholic... hmmmmm, how they fail when it comes to history.... .
"the earliest evidence of the use of the term catholic church is the letter to the smyrnaeans that ignatius of antioch wrote in about 107 to christians in smyrna.
exhorting christians to remain closely united with their bishop, he wrote: "wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever jesus christ is, there is the catholic church.
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JW's don't think anyone other than themselves are "Christian". You never see another church referred to as such in any of the publications, unless it's prefaced with "so-called". Otherwise, they're all referred to as churches of Christendom. So, this really isn't specific to Catholics.
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More bad chronology from the Watch Tower Society
by Jeffro init seems that more often than not, when the watch tower society says something about biblical chronology, they're probably wrong.
this seems to be the case even for uncontroversial matters!
insight on the scriptures volume 1, page 584 states (bold formatting added):.
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How much faith can really be put in Josephus' writings about history, in general? I know his more contemporary subjects are considered very valuable insights into first-century Judaism and Christianity, but he was also writing about things that happened several centuries distant to his lifetime. I can see the value as a sort of window into what first-century Jews thought about their own history, but how accurate has it really been found?
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Carbon dating and the Global Flood - links needed
by wizzstick ini've been using the search function on the site to research this, but a lot of articles seem quite old and there have been some interesting developments in this field of late.. if you're not sure on what carbon dating is have a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/radiocarbon_dating.
there's an interesting point made in the calibration methods section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/radiocarbon_dating#calibration_methods.
on developments in the last few years.. they highlight the discovery at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/lake_suigetsu and how it increased the calibration from 12,593 to 52,800 years.
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And you read some nutjob young-earth creationist's blog and now you're an expert on radiological dating methods.
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Carbon dating and the Global Flood - links needed
by wizzstick ini've been using the search function on the site to research this, but a lot of articles seem quite old and there have been some interesting developments in this field of late.. if you're not sure on what carbon dating is have a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/radiocarbon_dating.
there's an interesting point made in the calibration methods section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/radiocarbon_dating#calibration_methods.
on developments in the last few years.. they highlight the discovery at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/lake_suigetsu and how it increased the calibration from 12,593 to 52,800 years.
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This James Brown person makes my brain burn with the stupid.
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Arguments in favor of the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 BCE
by TJ Curioso ini received the following explanation in favor of the date of 607 bce.
accepted comments on the points at issue.. .
conclusion.
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It would be nice to have informative discussions about 607 without these delusional rantings every single time.
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So what IS wrong with higher Education?
by LoisLane looking for Superman inare the governing body, 8 pope-ettes, just jealous?.
what group of people doesn't want their finest minds to be educated?
(facepalm) .
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Higher education (typically a 4-year degree or above) teaches you critical thinking skills. They teach you how to correctly and objectively analyze data to come to your own logical conclusions. As opposed to primary education and trade schools (or 2-year degrees) which are more about teaching you a specific skillset, but not necessarily the reasoning behind those skills. In other words, advanced education teaches you how to think for yourself, whereas basic education teaches you *what* to think. Which is why the Society has always allowed for the attendance of trade schools. In fact, the Pew study indicated that Witnesses have one of the highest High School graduation rates in the country, but the lowest college education rates.
Critical Thinking is anathema to the WTS (and, really, all religion because throught history knowledge has always been the enemy of religion) because it eliminates Magical Thinking and faith. I have heard COs say that it is almost impossible to go to a 4-year college and remain a JW afterwards. This is very true, but not for any reaons that the WTS would publically admit - they usually blame parties, drinking, sex, drugs, etc. It's actually because when the Society's teachings are objectively analyzed using proper logical reasoning, the whole thing very quickly falls apart.
Mormons also faced the same problems, but they addressed differently. Instead of demonizing any pursuit of higher education, they created BYU, which Mormons are encouraged to attend for secondary education, where they can continue to be indoctrinated in Mormon theology and be surrounded by other believers who are all being socially pressured to follow the herd.
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At what point in the story did WT get it wrong, went off at a tangent?
by prologos inlooking at the bible narrative now, with open mind, the talking snake and all, it is a poorly contrived story.
all these clever people picking up and adding to the thread, the fabric its intriguing, certainly a valued literary work.
fiction.. using this story wt has woven another, parallel account that you would expect to harmonize with it, and hopefully attempt to connect with reality.. in your thinking, where did wt become unhinged, drifted off into total detachment?.
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I would say they went wrong as soon as Rutherford took over and he started shifting things towards an authoritarian mindset. Before that, they were a much more free group that encouraged open discussion and sharing ideas. Rutherford's desire to have his own personal "army" to command ended all that.