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  False Christians chose the modern Bible books

  by lifeisgood in

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  one of the issues that i discovered when i took two years off from the jws to just study the bible is the contents of the modern bible do not even come close to matching the contents of the holy books that the first christians used.

  not even close.

  off by over 550 books.. now, the jws claim that the catholic church is false religion.

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  Regarding the Old Testament apocrypha, my understanding is that they were included in the Septuagint (a greek translation of the OT). The translation was done between the 3rd and 2nd century BCE. They weren't part of the Massoretic text and may not have been in previous OT writings.

  Concerning the New Testament, I believe there was a great deal of general agreement well before Constantine. The Muratorian fragment, which could date from about 170 AD, mentions the four gospels, Acts, the Pauline works, Jude, and other works.

  Several church fathers quote extensively from a variety of NT texts.

  I doubt very much that the NT was "chosen by one man" as you say. There was no universal agreement for some time after the first century but by his time the canon was more or less established, IMO.

  MIke
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  the other side of my story and why im going back

  by deservingone26 in

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  there are two parts to this topic you can read one or the other or both if you want, i just figured i post this for differents ones who might being going thru what i am going thru i tried to write this as quick as possible so everything i am posting here is not to offend anyone i know everyone has the own opinions on different things so you can disagree or agree, but this is where i stand.

  sorry for any spelling errors or grammar issues up front.

  my story .

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  Deservingone 26,

  I completely agree with others who've said that there are more than two alternatives.

  I am a Christian who has never been one of JW's. I can't fully understand what you're going through. But I can say that the Watchtower has been less than honest when they talk about other Christian groups - what they believe, how they worship and so on.

  Please don't adopt the mindset that your choices are to return to the witnesses or lead a life of drugs, excessive drinking, debauchery & the like. I can tell you that most people don't live lives like that, Christian, non Christian, athiest, or anyone else.

  Take some time before you return. Take the suggestion above: Learn HOW to think. You've been conditioned by the Watchtower.

  The alternative is not black & white.

  Varian, you have a PM

  MF6
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  Worst Movie Ever!

  by PublishingCult in

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  the room.

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  Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!
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  Wanted to get reinstated... Almost ready to give up

  by headisspinning in

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  i'd like to hear from anyone who was disfellowshipped but fully intended to go back as soon as possible and how that worked out or didn't.

  i'd like to hear how soon you went back to meetings, how many letters requesting reinstatement you wrote, how you were treated, and how long it took you to get bitter and jaded.... or in the off chance you had a positive experience, what exactly happened.. really struggling here... thanks!.

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  Headisspinning,

  you have a PM.

  MF6
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  so oompa got df'd this week...

  by oompa in

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  no call to invite me to a committee meeting...no notification of deciding i should be df'd....no telling my jw wife of the announcement...not a chance to appeal what i did not even know what was going on...my mini-serve son is devasted....he even researched it....told me to go to page 153-154 of the od book...never heard of it but it is a green hardback given to all who are to be baptized.

  wow...the elders broke every rule in this book as to my case.... i have no respect for these men that can take away your jw family without even telling you they are going to.

  my jw son has now begged me to meet with my committee...even though there is prob zero chance they can reverse the decision...that chance is from when they let you know...and you have to appeal by letter within 7 days (i cant make this stuff up!!

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  I've never been a JW. I can't believe they would do something like this.

  How can they be so twisted?

  (Shakes head).

  MF6
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  Are you a fader, Df'd, DA'd, or Still In?

  by brotherdan in

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  i thought this would be an interesting poll that would show everyone the backgrounds of all of us when we left, if we have.. for myself, i am not df'd, but i am attempting a fade.

  i still go to some meetings with the wife to help with kids, but that's it.

  no commenting or field service.. what about everyone else?.

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  Is this elder the poster called "littletoe"?

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  Is the American empire on the brink of collapse?

  by slimboyfat in

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  historian niall ferguson made some extended remarks recently arguing that the american empire may be closer to the edge than many suppose.. he starts out observing that while the fateful decline of american supremacy is now widely accepted, it is still generally expected that this will be a protracted process.

  after all empires don't fall in a day.

  rome took centuries to crumble did it not?

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  I don't know about "collapse". But I do believe the United States military presence should be curtailed. Why does Europe need the american military? They have the resources to defend themselves. America can't be the world police. Nor should they be - especially in parts of the world fully capable of defending themselves.

  MF6
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  Ireland Asks for Massive Bailout

  by leavingwt in

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  ireland swallows bitter pill, asks eu for loan .

  debt-crippled ireland formally applied sunday for a massive eu-imf loan to stem the flight of capital from its banks, joining greece in a step unthinkable only a few years ago when ireland was a booming celtic tiger and the economic envy of europe.. european union finance ministers quickly agreed in principle to the bailout, saying it "is warranted to safeguard financial stability in the eu and euro area.

  " but all sides said further weeks of negotiations loomed to define the fund's terms, conditions and precise size.. ireland's crisis, set off by its foundering banks, drove up borrowing costs not only for ireland but for other weak links in the eurozone such as spain and portugal.

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  I met someone recently who worked as an accountant at the IMF. He told me the U.S. supported about 40% of the IMF budget. I know this is anecdotal, but I wonder how much the United States will be contributing to the bailout.
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  Can someone help me please???

  by safireblu64 in

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  i have been raised a jehovah's witness and when i was 25 years old i decided to try and discover things for myself.

  something just was not sitting right with me.

  i had been a publisher since i was 4 years old and i gave my first talk when i was 6 years old.

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  safireblu,

  You have a PM.

  MF
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  Audio: Witnesses reaction to their private Watchtower being called "Koolaid Edition"

  by kurtbethel in

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  here is an audio clip from a study where the witnesses are handing out a watchtower and awake, and promoting their benefit.

  then the householder asks about the "koolaid edition".

  one of the acts surprised and the other one quickly goes into damage control mode trying to explain the term.. very funny, sweet beverage indeed!.

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  Is there a way to get scanned copies of these Koolaid editions so I may study these and gain valuable deeper knowledge? Surely they would want to help mankind to learn these concepts.

  Mike