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Atheism

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Is it safe yet? I mean to get back on topic?

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

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Sab - "Atheism is a personal decision and life philosophy..."

Actually, atheism is just a non-belief in a divine super-being as a result of insufficient evidence. No more, no less. Atheism does not dictate a philosophy. It is not JUST a personal decision.

Just wanted to clear that up. Carry on.

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there is no shortage of ex-elders, behelites, ex-circuit overseers on this forum that continue to spout their hatred for christians, even as they did while leading their former adherents down the same path.

the new religion for these preachers of paradise, is materialism.

in their view, science is the arbitrator of truth.

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One of the reasons I never joined this forum previously, is that it seemed to consist of blasphemers and God haters.

Hard to hate something that doesn't exist. I also blaspheme Vishnu on a regular basis - is that wrong too?

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Dan Savage talks about the bible and Christian students flee

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zap2it.comdan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the biblehuffington post - 42 minutes agodan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the bible... walked out of dan's speech the moment he began talking about the parts of the ...

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It is illogical to say that Savage should have free speech to say this stuff, but they should not have the free speech to publicly walk out on it.

Never said they couldn't exercise their free speech by walking out. Good for them. Free speech is a given anyways in this context. Not an issue. Is not the issue.

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Dan Savage talks about the bible and Christian students flee

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zap2it.comdan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the biblehuffington post - 42 minutes agodan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the bible... walked out of dan's speech the moment he began talking about the parts of the ...

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If those kids were really bible believers and they knew who Dan Savage was and what he stands for, why were they attending his talk in the first place? They could have opted out of his talk easily enough. And again, if you don't read Savage on a regular basis then what he said in the video was extremely tame compared to how he usually is.

He is simply one guy who is constantly chipping away at archaic notions of sexual orientation. What is everybody else doing about that?

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Dan Savage talks about the bible and Christian students flee

by Terry in

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zap2it.comdan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the biblehuffington post - 42 minutes agodan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the bible... walked out of dan's speech the moment he began talking about the parts of the ...

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I'm of the strong opinion that even if Savage would have couched his language, those students would have left just the same and various Christian organizations would still villify Savage.

Silly Christians. They just don't like it when a gay, non-Christian understands the Bible more than they do.

Also, Savage did no bullying of any sort. Really, if you think he did, I'm glad you're not a spokesperson for any anti-bullying organization.

As for the language he used, it's a safe bet to say that everyone there were more shocked that it wasn't worse. I mean....way worse!!

And if you get offended at his verbalizing 'BS', then obviously, journalism isn't for you and those who left did the right thing.

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Dan Savage talks about the bible and Christian students flee

by Terry in

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zap2it.comdan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the biblehuffington post - 42 minutes agodan savage, bullying and the truth about gays and the bible... walked out of dan's speech the moment he began talking about the parts of the ...

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Expletive fllled rant? Oh, the hyperbole. (Forgot to add in bullying too. Oh, the hyperbole.)

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ProofThatGodExists.org

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some of you may enjoy the podcast below.

join us for a fascinating hour with apologist sye ten bruggencate, host of the website http://www.proofthatgodexists.org.

dpr jones, seth andrews and sye talk about absolute truth, the accuracy of scripture, morality and "proof" of god in a spirited yet civil conversation.

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Well that website was just awful. But considering he's from Toronto, it doesn't surprise me. (insert sarcastic emoticon of your choice *)

* relates to the second sentence only. But seriously, Toronto does suck.

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Are religionists and atheists on the same team?

by Fernando in

do they both lead people away from god?.

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be aware that a big percent of them do not draw atheism as a conlusion to science.

And how do you arrive at this assigned generalized percentage value? Surely you're not using information from polls/surveys/statistics.

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Are religionists and atheists on the same team?

by Fernando in

do they both lead people away from god?.

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Covering a few points here.

Statistics that you can count on. Batting averages. The US Census. How many days did you work this year compared to last year. That kind of thing. Surveys and polls: not the same thing as statistics. - FHN

Statistics can be manipulated as well. Nothing is fool proof. No census can be counted on as being 100% accurate as well.

Comparing statistics and surveys/polls is like comparing apples to oranges anyways.

Whether or not a scientist believes in a supernatural cause is irrelevant to the methodologies of science that are employed.

The science speaks for itself while the scientist speaks for herself/himself.

And a definitive no: Religionists and atheists are NOT on the same team. False equivocation.