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  Jw's sending me invites and letters, I don't get it.

  by Foolednomore in

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  first off, i have made it real clear with jw's my thoughts on being a jw.

  i'm out, there is no coming back.. second, i'm on their " do not call list" .. so why now all of a sudden my mailbox is getting bombed 💣 by their memorial invites and letters?.

  don't they follow their do not call list?

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  Counting time...
  
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  Criminal Cases and Lawsuits Involving WT Coverup of Pedophilia

  by Ding in

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  in criminal cases and civil lawsuits against the wt and its elders for failing to report pedophilia, the defense almost always argues that the elders should enjoy the benefit of the clergy-penitent confidentiality protections of the law.of course, we know that the wt has for many years prided itself on not having a "clergy class," but prosecutors and plaintiffs' lawyers are often unaware of that.. if you find out about a case in your area, you might get ahold of the prosecutor or plantiff's lawyer and share with them wt literature such as the april 1, 1981 watchtower (p. 15): "interestingly, jehovah’s witnesses have for years followed the direction of the founder of christianity that 'all you are brothers,' and have no clergy class among them.".

  you might also share with them this article from the april 8, 1993 awake, p. 31:.

  victims of pedophile priests speak out.

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  Ding

  In criminal cases and civil lawsuits against the WT and its elders for failing to report pedophilia, the defense almost always argues that the elders should enjoy the benefit of the clergy-penitent confidentiality protections of the law.
  
  Of course, we know that the WT has for many years prided itself on not having a "clergy class," but prosecutors and plaintiffs' lawyers are often unaware of that.

  If you find out about a case in your area, you might get ahold of the prosecutor or plantiff's lawyer and share with them WT literature such as the April 1, 1981 Watchtower (p. 15): "Interestingly, Jehovah’s Witnesses have for years followed the direction of the Founder of Christianity that 'all you are brothers,' and have no clergy class among them."

  You might also share with them this article from the April 8, 1993 Awake, p. 31:

  Victims of Pedophile Priests Speak Out

  “DURING the past decade, some 400 Roman Catholic priests have been reported to church or civil authorities for sexual abuse of children,” according to U.S.News & World Report. Recently, a national gathering of survivors of such abuse was held near Chicago, Illinois. Many spoke openly of how they had been victimized by pedophile priests.

  But NCR (National Catholic Reporter) notes that speakers sounded another theme repeatedly throughout the conference: “The first abuse is sexual; the second and more painful, is psychological.” This second abuse occurs when the church refuses to listen to victims of abuse, fails to take their accusations seriously, and moves only to protect the offending priests. “Fairly or unfairly,” NCR reports, “they portrayed Catholic clergy as belonging to an unhealthy and misguided group more bent on preserving privilege and power than in serving lay needs.” Several speakers made ominous comparisons to the Reformation, which split the church wide open in the 16th century.
  

  According to Richard Sipe, a former priest turned psychotherapist and expert on sexual abuse by Catholic clergy, all this institutional denial reveals “a deep, desperate and knowing personal involvement in the problem.” He added: “The church knows and has known for a long time a great deal about the sexual activity of its priests. It has looked the other way, tolerated, covered up and simply lied about the broad spectrum of sexual activity of its priests.”
  

  Not surprisingly, then, many abuse survivors are suing the church. NCR quotes one attorney who specializes in such cases as saying that there are pedophile-priest cases in each of the church’s 188 dioceses in the United States. He says that out-of-court settlements have run as high as $300,000 per case. U.S.News & World Report says that such suits have already cost the church $400,000,000, a figure that could surge to $1 billion by the year 2000. And the Canadian Press reported recently that some 2,000 survivors of childhood sexual abuse in 22 church-run orphanages and mental institutions in Quebec are suing six religious orders for $1.4 billion in damages.
  

  Interestingly, though, the aforementioned U.S. attorney, who represents 150 victims of pedophile priests in 23 states, says that he has never yet had a client who was eager to go to court. Each one first tried to seek justice “within the pastoral context of the church.” NCR concludes: “Survivors go to the courts, it appears, not as a first resort, but as a last resort.”
  
  
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  I have changed a bit

  by Lee Marsh in

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  for one thing i am older.

  this is what i look like now or at least on jan 1, 2022.. .

  yes, 69 years old.. i moved once.

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  Thanks, Dagney. Randy helped a lot of people after he left the WT. I, too, hope he is doing well.
  
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  I have changed a bit

  by Lee Marsh in

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  for one thing i am older.

  this is what i look like now or at least on jan 1, 2022.. .

  yes, 69 years old.. i moved once.

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  No, Randy Watters who's an ex-Bethelite.

  He founded Bethel Ministries, which became Free Minds.
  
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  I have changed a bit

  by Lee Marsh in

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  for one thing i am older.

  this is what i look like now or at least on jan 1, 2022.. .

  yes, 69 years old.. i moved once.

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  How is Randy Watters doing these days, Lee?
  
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  Am I Expected to Become One of Jehovah’s Witnesses if I Study the Bible With Them?

  by Ron.W. in

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  Are you studying with JWs?

  If so, why?
  
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  Hi again

  by Lee Marsh in

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  2. friends

  it is nice to see some familiar faces here.

  for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.

  thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.

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  Great to hear from you again!
  
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  Administering a Blood Transfusion When Directed by a Superior- Jehovah's Witness Policy

  by Ron.W. in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  administering a blood transfusion when directed by a superior - jehovah's witness policy effective june 15th, 2018. while the hospital liasion committee elders were instructed that they may inform doctors and nurses of this decision, this letter was not allowed to be distributed to anyone outside of hlc members.. as a result of the concealment of this letter, and by virtue of the fact that this information was only to be shared verbally with jehovah's witness medical professionals and others, confusion erupted across the united states and in other branch offices of jehovah's witnesses.

  countless letters were received at watchtower headquarters in new york from concerned jw nurses, paramedics, and others who were instructed verbally on this new policy, but which contradicted existing written policy that had been in effect for many decades.. in addition to letters from witness medical professionals, circuit overseers in the field wrote to the us branch and hospital information desk in new york about the problems caused by this unreleased policy.

  for example, south carolina circuit overseer brandon roberts reported to headquarters that "the majority of the nurses in our circuit were not aware of this updated policy.

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  If they put a policy in writing, lawyers can use it against them.

  If they keep it verbal, there's plausible deniability.

  "Just become some elder told a JW ---- doesn't mean that it's organizational policy..."
  
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  1995 generation change

  by Gorb in

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  now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

  it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

  with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

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  Ding

  These things mean whatever the GB says they mean...today.

  Tomorrow? Who knows? Always stay tuned for "new light" and "refined understanding."
  
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  How many of you remember the "Pioneer Shuffle " and the special "time reporting" of pioneers?

  by Foolednomore in

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  i started pioneering in my late teens an remember how slow pioneers would walk to the doors while out in circus.

  also, they would not really talk to anybody at all.

  they would start their time as soon as they got dressed an out the door, while us regular shucks started our time at the first door we knocked at.

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  Ding

  Delivering a life-saving message at a snail's pace... and with so little time remaining until Armageddon as well...