Posts by Ding

349

Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Ding

Do dozens of false prophecies and doctrinal flip-flops qualify as disproving the claim?

If not, what would?

11

Two Translators Who Restored God’s Name to the NT

by Wonderment in

one of the first prayers that many people learn is the lord’s prayer, which jesus taught his followers.

this prayer is found in what is commonly called the new testament.

the prayer begins: “our father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified [or hallowed].” (matthew 6:9) yet, god’s name, rendered in english as “jehovah” or sometimes “yahweh,” is rarely found in english translations of the new testament.

Ding

Interesting that Jesus said to pray, "Our Father..." rather than "Jehovah..."

35

Christmas, yes or no ?

by jhine in

i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .

christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.

however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.

Ding

I wasn't raised in the borg so it's easy and natural for me to celebrate Christmas.

31

Hobbies

by peacefulpete in

jw
friends

i think it's been a while since this was asked.

tell us your hobbies, interests, pastimes, whatever you find enjoyable as a diversion from work and school.

i am lucky enough to live in a small cabin on a lake, i enjoy rowing my old boat and fishing, i play with car projects, and we travel as much as we can.

Ding

Jhine,

Do you watch the Cracking the Cryptic Sudoku videos?

If you haven't heard of them, google it and check it out.

God Has Only One Visible Organization on Earth!

by Vanderhoven7 in

why is it important to some that god only have one visible organization to represent him on earth?

why is it important to jehovah's witnesses that people recognize their organization as such?

what makes a witness more moral or righteous or save-worthy if they accept that it is his one and only organization?

Ding

Punkofnice,

I have cited that quote to many JWs.

I've never gotten a response.

Deer in the headlights.

Does not compute...

25

God Has Only One Visible Organization on Earth!

by Vanderhoven7 in

why is it important to some that god only have one visible organization to represent him on earth?

why is it important to jehovah's witnesses that people recognize their organization as such?

what makes a witness more moral or righteous or save-worthy if they accept that it is his one and only organization?

Ding

In the mind of many (most?) JWs, the organization is equated with Jehovah and/or Jesus.

It's visible. They are not.

To obey/be loyal to/disobey/reject the organization is to obey/be loyal to/disobey/reject Jehovah and Jesus.

13

CSA and the UK Catholic Church.

by Lost in the fog in

the comments underneath the article are almost as interesting as the article.. .

https://mercatornet.com/secrecy-confession-england-wales/81615/.

Ding

"Some other valid reason..."

How about bringing the perpetrator to justice?

62

Who will Survive Armageddon?

by Vanderhoven7 in

breaking news....there is hope for good hearted non-jws!!!.

according to sergio:.

are jehovah's witnesses the only ones to be saved during the end time?.

Ding

As usual, the WT tries to have it both ways.

Theocratic war strategy.

31

How do Witnesses reconcile Isaiah 43:10 with John 1:1

by Vanderhoven7 in

something does not compute.

you are my witnesses,”declares jehovah, yes, my servant whom i have chosen, so that you may know and have faith in me and understand that i am the same one.before me no god was formed, and after me there has been none.

isaiah 43:10. in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was god.

Ding

Many JWs don't attempt to defend anything.

They just refer you to the WT website and move on.

9

Watchtower Double Speak

by Vanderhoven7 in

on eternal life.

"none of us are in position to earn god’s gifts, least of all to earn the gift of life.

but we can show ourselves worthy of the gift of eternal life by … dedicating ourselves to jehovah and then proving faithful to that dedication.” (the watchtower, august 15, 1952, p. 485).

Ding

When the WT says you can't earn salvation, they mean that without the gift of the ransom sacrifice all your works would be useless, but because of that gift, your works now can show that you are worthy of salvation.

So salvation isn't earned; it's a gift.

But that's like saying that your paychecks aren't earned; they're gifts.

Why so?

Because if your boss hadn't given you a job (something he/she was under no obligation to do), he/she wouldn't have to pay you anything no matter how many works you volunteered to do for him/her; therefore, your paychecks are gifts.

Isn't WT logic amazing?

On JW dot org, the WT makes the analogy of a rich man offering an expensive gift if you come to a specific place at a specific time to receive it.

Even though you have to do something to get it, it would still be a gift.

But that analogy is false because it's nothing like the WT salvation system.

If the rich man made you come to 3-5 meetings a week and go door to door promoting his literature the rest of your life, that would no longer be a gift.

It would be wages.