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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

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  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  "Removed" = no longer exist
  
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  Who Are the "Other Sheep" and Jesus "Brothers" ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower plays lots of games with definitions.

  once they change a definition then they have a false assumption to build their deception on.

  then they repeat the new definition and use its new meaning thousands of times to reinforce it.

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  Walter Martin used to say, "The sheep's clothing of the cults is vocabulary -- same words, totally different meanings..."
  
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  i was called on this morning

  by stan livedeath in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for the first time in ages.. a very elegantly dressed senior lady and a young chap.

  but--it wasnt just having a leaflet thrust at me--it was a full blown "old style" presentation.

  i stopped her going to far into it--by asking if they are jws--and told them i was an apostate.

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  Ding

  Why use the WT terminology by calling yourself an apostate?
  
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  Former Lancaster, PA Elder convicted of child sexual abuse of multiple victims .......

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another creepy pervert elder convicted of multiple counts of child sexual abuse in pennsylvania.

  this guy moved from puerto rico to lancaster, pa in the 1990's, worked his way up thru to being an elder, and then used his position to babysit families with children and abuse them.

  he then denied everything, but when some victims went to the police, he fled back to pr, where us marshall's eventually caught up to him and arrested him.

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  A couple years ago I was talking with an Philadelphia elder about the ARC.

  He assured me that CSA coverup doesn't occur in Pennsylvania because there are mandatory reporting laws.

  I wonder what he thinks now.
  
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  For JW's - Is there ever a legitimate reason to criticize?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a jw quote this scripture to me recently: “study to show yourself approved” - great scripture.

  but when we point out that former wt leaders didn’t study and were high school drop outs (ct russell only made it to the 7th grade) franz was a college drop out with only 2 hrs.

  in koine greek, we always get the same answer - the apostles weren’t educated men either.

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  Ding

  Everything is proof the WT is right, even when it's wrong.

  Likewise, JWs are always grateful for new light, even when it completely contradicts the new light they got just a year ago.
  
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  "You Can't Handle The Truth!"

  by FragrantAddendum in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ...or can you?.

  (we'll see...).

  https://youtu.be/ckk850qhgws.

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  Which is harder to handle -- the truth or "the truth"?
  
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  Know it’s not true but stay anyway

  by Elena in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.

  my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.

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  Ding

  An ex-elder once said to me, "If you want to just get by, there are a whole lot of religions easier to do it in than Jehovah's Witnesses."

  (Granted, that was back when you still had to report all your time.)
  
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  Why Was WT OK with Blood Transfusions for over 65 Years Before Banning?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  blood transfusion history.

  1665 the first recorded successful blood transfusion occurs in england: physician richard lower keeps dogs alive by transfusion of blood from other dogs.. 1818 james blundell performs the first successful blood transfusion of human blood to treat postpartum hemorrhage.. 1840 the first whole blood transfusion to treat hemophilia is successfully completed.. 1900 karl landsteiner discovers the first three human blood groups, a, b and o.. 1902 landsteiner’s colleagues, alfred decastello and adriano sturli, add a fourth blood type, ab.. 1907 blood typing and cross matching between donors and patients is attempted to improve the safety of transfusions.

  the universality of the o blood group is identified.. 1914 adolf hustin discovers that sodium citrate can anticoagulate blood for transfusion, allowing it to be stored and later transfused safely to patients on the battlefield.. 1932 the first blood bank is established at leningrad hospital.. 1939-1940 the rh blood group is discovered and recognized as the cause behind most transfusion reactions.. 1940 the us government establishes a nationwide blood collection program.. so from the beginning of the watchtower being printed in 1879, they were ok with blood transfusions until 1945. what caused this?

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  Ding

  A good question I saw once is, "Is the symbol of life more important than life itself?"
  
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  Know it’s not true but stay anyway

  by Elena in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.

  my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.

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  Ding

  I think that insofar as JWs actually believe the Watchtower teachings, it's because of the constant repetition along with the constant putdowns of alternatives as worldly and satanic.

  The constant indoctrination leads them to shut their minds off when anyone tries to show them the doctrinal flip flops and false prophecies.

  Many years ago, I tried to show an elder some of the ridiculous statements the WT has made. I used Randy Watters' "Thus Saith the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses" booklet.

  He refused to look at the evidence because of the source -- "apostate material."

  I tried to get him to check the originals to see if Randy's photocopies were of actual WT publications or apostate forgeries, but he simply shut his mind down and stalked out of the room.
  
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  Did God know adam and eve would sin?

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

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  Ding

  If God didn't know what's going to happen, wouldn't that negate all the foretelling of the future by the prophets?