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  Wise counsel for JW's in latest WT

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  june 2023 study watchtower p. 13, par 15 - “we will not be fooled if we “make sure of or, “test” all things.”...we need to test what we hear or what we read to determine whether it is genuine.....instead of naively accepting what others the org say, we use our thinking ability to compare what we read or what we hear with what the bible and jehovah’s organization say.”.

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  To most JWs, "make sure of all things" = find out what the GB currently says about it.
  
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  What Will JW's Do If They Find Themselves Still Conscious after Death?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know that despite many scriptures to the contrary, jw's believe that when they die, their consciousness will cease.

  my question is this: what will be the likely reaction of jw's if they find themselves conscious after death?.

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  Ding

  Panic
  
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  What Would Grandfather Say Now?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my late grandfather believed he was one of the anointed.

  that aside when asked about whether the jw organisation would last, he would pull out the attached wt magazine (the second edition) and say "if the day ever comes when the organisation asks for money outright, it will be proof that jehovah is not it's backer.

  " that's how convinced he was that such a thing would never happen.. i often wonder what my grandfather would make of the modern organisation today..

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  Ding

  I didn't know him, of course, but I wonder if he would say that the GB had no choice because brothers and sisters today seem to have lost their zeal for Jehovah.

  Blame the JWs, not the organization!
  
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  Watchtower Museums

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now covid restrictions are over, they're pushing on with watchtower museums at many locations through out the world.. looks to me as if they'll be pretty boring.

  a few old bibles and photos of the witnessing work from way back when.. one things for sure is they won't include anything relating to constantly changing doctrines or have libraries full of old publications that have since been swept under the carpet..

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  Ding

  I doubt they'll include a display of Russell's pyramid measurements, including changed lengths to accommodate the 1874-changed-to-1914 invisible parousia date change (when your prediction fails, get "new light")
  
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  Shunning and persecution

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws see shunning as a loving provision.

  but if a mennonite gal is shunned by her parents and friends for converting to jwism, would this be seen as a loving provision or as evidence of persecution?

  how about parents beating a daughter who converted to jehovah's witnesses?.

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  Ding

  Of course they would consider that persecution.
  
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  “Allow me to put my notes aside…” (1975 DO talk)

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember years ago hearing an audio recording online of a district overseer talk regarding 1975. he said something along the lines of “allow me to put my notes aside” and then went off about how the end was coming in 1975. does anyone remember this?

  or know where i can find a recording of this talk?.

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  Ding

  As I recall, Sunutko's talk started out by disclaiming any certainty about what 1975 would bring and then spent the balance of the time urging JWs to talk up the possibility that 1975 would bring about the destruction of the wicked system ("it will be gone... down!") and start of the new system.
  
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  Shunning and persecution

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws see shunning as a loving provision.

  but if a mennonite gal is shunned by her parents and friends for converting to jwism, would this be seen as a loving provision or as evidence of persecution?

  how about parents beating a daughter who converted to jehovah's witnesses?.

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  Ding

  I can't find the reference, but didn't the WT condemn excommunications by the Catholic church?

  Of course, the WT religion is "the truth," so whatever they do is loving, right?
  
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  Answering JW Conversation Stoppers

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws often try to justify their religion as being the only true religion.

  questions like.

  which other organization is doing this or that?

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  "For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths."

  That's exactly what JWs think all of Christendom is doing, but, of course, not Jehovah's theocratic organization.
  
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  Answering JW Conversation Stoppers

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws often try to justify their religion as being the only true religion.

  questions like.

  which other organization is doing this or that?

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  Ding

  I think we need to come up with short replies to WT thought stoppers.

  One might be, "I don't understand why you call your religion 'the truth' when so many of their key teachings have changed just within our lifetime."

  I'd like to hear others' ideas.
  
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  1975 on the back burner

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  “1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.

  according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.

  it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.

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  Ding

  I think the WT dropped the Adam-Eve creation gap explanation a year or two after 1975.

  They didn't announce it, of course,

  They just stopped mentioning it and hoped the 1975 fiasco would fade away.