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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

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  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  Alex,

  So you don't know their names. Everyone in the upper room knew the names of those taking the lead.

  You don't know their names means you don't know who was chosen and you can't answer Jesus' question.

  You don't know their names but you can tell me the continent they were chosen on, the country they were chosen in, the state and the city they were chosen in, the offices they occupied in Brooklyn as well as the month and year they were chosen to be the faithful slave.

  Its strange that you know all this information, but that the very unnamed ones were propogating the lie that Pastor Russell who died in 1916 was the faithful slave. In fact those allegedly chosen ones in Brooklyn never knew they were chosen; they went to their graves clueless.

  It was only on 2012 that it was revealed to the GB of JWs that these unnamed men were chosen to fill that office....and that they, the current GB inherited that office by divine succession. Amazing.

  As the GB has pronounced.

  We are the faithful and Discrete Slave that alone understands the scriptures and through whom you must be saved. If you do not accept us you will be destroyed by Jehovah. This is what the Bible clearly teaches. Put your faith in us and survive Armageddon which is just around the corner.
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  What Biblical message should be proclaimed now according to Jesus himself ?

  by Alex Williams in

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  this is what jesus said.

  matt 24-14.

  14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. looking at this verse what is the central theme?

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  Vanderhoven7

  Jesus told 8 kingdom of heaven parables from a boat. (Matthew 13 and Mark 4).

  Four of these parables were field parables pointing to the fact that the kingdom consisted of "good seed" /sons of the kingdom/church that would start out small but grow to an enormous size having birds/weeds/demons/false Christian's, resting in its branches right up until the harvest.

  This kingdom of heaven, has nothing to do with 1914 or any other year. It has to do with the king and his true followers.
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  Vanderhoven7

  Alex

  Can you tell me the names of the ones Jesus appointed in Brooklyn as his Faithful and Discrete Slave in 1919?
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Glad you guys (Johnamos, Fink and LeeT) continued to reply to scholar unsupported views.
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Right on LeeT

  Faith in men who prove themselves wrong time and again.

  Faith that is not in God and the Bible, but men and their word.
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  What Biblical message should be proclaimed now according to Jesus himself ?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is what jesus said.

  matt 24-14.

  14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. looking at this verse what is the central theme?

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  Vanderhoven7

  Jesus preached the gospel of the kingdom. Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom. That kingdom was established in 33 AD with the in filling of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.

  1914, Pastor Russell, Rutherford and company, Watchtower Society etc. has nothing to do with the kingdom. The kingdom that was and is established is the church of God which consists of every true believer in Christ Jesus.

  Everything else is just counterfeit christianity.
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Johnamos

  So clear and succinct. 😊
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Scholar

  "produced outstanding scholarship with Bible Chronology..."

  Are you saying that 1799, 1874, 1878, 1914, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1975, reflect outstanding scholarship?

  "...but have also produced the finest and most accurate Bible translation -New World Translation ever made."

  What non WTS affiliated scholars say that the NWT is the most accurate translation?

  I suspect the only people who would say that are the ones that say Jesus appointed a small group of Bible Students in Brooklyn New York as his FDS in the spring of 1919.

  
  
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  'If everyone is thinking the same, then Who is doing the thinking?"

  You must be talking about the rank and file .. who would lose both friends and family if they had an independent thought on this or any other official teaching of the organization.

  The GB/FDS does all the thinking yet there is not a scholar among them...as their record on chronology shows.

  No one studying the Bible, scholar or otherwise, would come up with what the WTS has concluded on this prophesy
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Vanderhoven7

  
  

  
  

  I do not know one non-WT affiliated Bible scholar that accepts 607 BCE for the Fall.

  Thank you for your frankness. Why do you suppose that is? Could it be that Bible scholars aren't scholarly or somewhat prejudiced? What is your take?

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