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Leaked Annual Meeting Video: "Expect Sudden Changes" Jeffrey Jackson
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/uxqqyrrffow?si=wo0jotyvjg76oljk.
well that's sort of related to the next talk on our program brother jeffrey jackson will discuss the theme don't be surprised by sudden changes, brother jeff you have our.
attention well i'm sure we all agree with this fact in recent years there have been a lot of changes even since the last annual meeting there have been many changes some of them perhaps are a little surprising or may seem to be sudden but you know brothers and sisters when we look back on how these changes have come we can see that jehovah has gradually prepared us for each of these adjustments and changes let's review some of the recent changes we've had what changes have we seen with regard to our understand understanding of bible teachings at the 2021 annual meeting we received an adjusted understanding of john 529 it was explained that the resurrection of judgment will not be a judgment of condemnation rather it will be more like a period of probation the unrighteous mentioned at acts 24:15 will have an opportunity to gain everlasting life but their names will not be written wr in the book of life at the time of their resurrection to have their names eventually written in that book these ones will need to respond positively to the great educational work that will take place during the thousand-year reign then at the annual meeting in 2023 we gained enhanced insight into what we do know and what we don't know concerning jehovah's judgments we learned that the door of opportunity for people to take a stand for the kingdom does not shut when the great tribulation starts with the destruction of false religion at that time perhaps some will be like the egyptians in moses day who took a last minute stand and joined the exodus of god's people at the same annual meeting we adjusted our views with regard to jehovah's judgments of those who died in the flood and those who were destroyed in sodom and gomorrah also at that annual meeting an adjustment was made regarding the reporting of our time and activity in our preaching work instead of focusing on reports we try to make good use of every opportunity to witness then we receive the 2024 governing body update number two in that update we saw the need to adjust how we interact with those who have committed serious sins and have been removed from the congregation what other major adjustments have we recently seen in our preaching work the emphasis now is on studing bible studies and making disciples not on distributing literature to that end the focus is on studying meaningful conversations not just on using memorized presentations were you surprised by these adjustments perhaps so but as we look back we see how one adjustment in understanding gradually helped us with the next adjustment isn't it true that gradually jehovah has prepared us and when we look back on it we see how logical this training has been to refine our understanding but events in the world likewise have changed it's true sometimes in the world you have sudden changes for example the pandemic but often times change in the world is gradual isn't it true with regard to the view of morality homosexuality abortion even what's acceptable and not acceptable with regard to conduct all of that has happened gradually in the world and it's not until you look back and see how different the world is today with regard to those matters that we see that there have been a lot of changes but this can be dangerous because as things gradually change we may get used to gradual change and forget that there are some sudden changes about to occur uh let's take our bibles please and if you turn with me to the book of luke chap 21 now this is an example of sudden change in luke chap 21 uh notice there in verse 34 the words of our lord jesus are recorded and he said in verse 34 but pay attention to yourselves that your hearts never become weighed down with oving and heavy drinking and anxieties of life and suddenly suddenly that they be instantly instantly upon you it's interesting to note that jesus had already said that this day he was referring to would occur at a time that we don't think is likely so what lesson do we learn from what jesus said it's a warning isn't it that we can't just sit back and think well things are gradually going to develop we know which way it's going and maybe it's not going to happen yet you know got a little bit more wiggle room there with regard to the schedule but you see that's dangerous thinking now what we're going to do is consider two examples of areas where perhaps we could be a little guilty with regard to that for example our view as with regard to the number of anointed ones remaining on the earth now for many years what did we think we thought well that number would go down and down and down and down now i don't know about you but me i you when that report came out just how many how many partakers and and what were we thinking we probably you maybe we didn't say it but we were thinking you know the number will go down down down down and there'll be just a couple of old guys in a wheelchair who will get their reward well i'm exaggerating but that was sort of the feeling wasn't it but now what have we seen in recent years those numbers have gone up and up and not only that younger brothers have been appointed on the governing body now i know what you're all thinking two new ones how old are they we know you're not googling now but you will be but you see we need to be careful about what we're thinking with regard to the number of anointed ones left on earth you see 19 years ago i was appointed on the governing body even i thought i was too young now they tell me i'm not so young anymore but do we see the point what does the bible actually tell us with regard to this well it doesn't say the number would just dwindle down to just having a few uh older ones left no the great crowd of other sheep will be judged on the basis of how they deal with
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serena williams
by FreeFallin innot really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .
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I don't see the problem either. You would think that the WT would have had a problem with Serena Williams posing topless for the 2016 Pirelli Calendar though. And did WT say anything about Venus Williams posing naked in 2014 and offering to do it again?
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Beroean Pickets - Is there a problem?
by BoogerMan inhaving watched the latest offering from beroean pickets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuelgtf4ka - i contributed the following factual information along with several consolidating scriptures:.
"naos - metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in christ,
of a company of christians, a christian church, as dwelt in by the spirit of god.
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The Great Crowd members are all anointed, saved, washed in the blood unlike WT OS
A modern Jehovah’s Witness other sheep is a person:
a. who is not born of the Spirit of God (not Spirit begotten) and therefore cannot see/inherit the Kingdom of God.
b. who has not been justified by the blood of Christ.
c. who is not part of the New Covenant.
d. who has no personal Mediator.
e. who is bereft of a heavenly hope.
f. who cannot come unto Jesus Christ when troubled or commune with him i.e. relate to him on a personal level.
g. who believes an extra-biblical gospel that the Apostle Paul knew nothing about.
h. whose faith is primarily centered in men (GB) not God or the Bible.
i. who must never voice any opinion on any doctrine (even the extra-biblical stuff) contrary to that of the GB or risk discipline and possible disfellowship.
j. whose organization feels free to invent conspiracies and arbitrarily add words to the New Testament, as in the case of the name "Jehovah", selectively reflecting its doctrinal bias.
k. who previously (before November 2023), after doing fieldservice (which usually involves the extra-biblical practice of going door to door) was required complete an extra-biblical written report every month detailing time spent preaching to remain in "good standing".
l. who believes that those of all those of other faiths (including those claiming to be Christian) are part of satan’s organization and if alive will die at the hand of Jehovah during the tribulation or at Armageddon.
m. who are not eligible to partake of the bread and wine which represent the body and blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.
n. who take full advantage of government provisions such as health care and income benefits, yet will not vote, or work for a governmental organization.
o. who will strongly encourage you to read their organization's literature while openly refusing to receive or read literature from you developed by your church or church publisher.
p. who is not allowed independent religious thought.
q. who must avoid relating to and in many cases actually shun family members who have been disfellowshipped from the organization.
r. who would lose the privilege of giving a public address in North America if he grew a beard.
s. who will be disciplined and possibly disfellowshipped if caught celebrating birthdays, Christmas, wishing people a happy birthday or reading literature opposed to the WTS.
t. Who can be disfellowshipped for smoking cigarettes.
u. who actually plans/aspires to be raised in the resurrection along with the UNJUST.
v. whose religion is spurious to scripture in the sense that everything that is original and unique to it is in fact, extra-biblical.
w. who believes that a criteria for salvation is that one must find and submit to an organization. One cannot be saved without the GB.
x. who readily embraces extra-biblical information.
y. whose doctrine is often determined by at least 2/3 majority vote of the Governing Body.
z. who rejects biblical salvation (which is a gift of God, not of works) for a gospel of relative works-righteousness.
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Beroean Pickets - Is there a problem?
by BoogerMan inhaving watched the latest offering from beroean pickets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuelgtf4ka - i contributed the following factual information along with several consolidating scriptures:.
"naos - metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in christ,
of a company of christians, a christian church, as dwelt in by the spirit of god.
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Eric has his flaws. You know there is a problem when you can't agree to disagree on non-essentials. Also, he wastes his energy alienating Trinitarians who would otherwise be interested in his videos.
The other sheep are the Gentiles. If Jesus had said Gentiles he would have invited violence as was the case with Paul.
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Calling on Trump to investigate JW CSA.
by Vanderhoven7 inmenacing mistral writes:.
for those who may be interested, jimmy bell has, with the help of others, created a letter to be sent to president trump regarding watchtower and their harmful practices and danger to children.
below is the link where you can download the letter.
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Menacing Mistral writes:
For those who may be interested, Jimmy Bell has, with the help of others, created a letter to be sent to president Trump regarding Watchtower and their harmful practices and danger to children. Below is the link where you can download the letter. I also have the video where he reads it and gives instructions.
Please, if you're willing to do so, also send your own letter along with it. The personal account of what you suffered will demonstrate the damaging toll these abuses have on real people.
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Child abuse calculations
by Anony Mous inthere are no real numbers for jws but they are a relatively small group.
compared to the number of catholics at least.. the australian commission gathered more than 5000 cases with over 1000 perpetrators that went completely unreported for the jws.
likewise they did the same for catholics and collected just under 4800 cases with 1880 perpetrators.
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Jws 4 Justice
If you or someone you know needs resources or support related to sexual violence, contact the Maine Coalition Against Sexual Assault’s 24/7 hotline at 800-871-7741.
A Pennsylvania woman is suing the Jehovah’s Witnesses of Fort Kent and the New York-based headquarters of the church for alleged sexual abuse committed decades ago by church members.
Shannon Simendinger, 45, alleges that three church members sexually abused her from approximately 1985 to 1993, when she was between the ages of 6 and 14. She and her family lived in Fort Kent at that time and attended the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Fort Kent.
Lewiston law firm Berman & Simmons filed the civil suit Jan. 8 at Aroostook County Superior Court in Caribou. The firm has handled
multiple sex abuse cases brought against the Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland and is also representing some families and victims of the deadly Lewiston shooting rampage in October 2023.
The 24-page document accuses elders David Ezzy and Ernest Fyans and church member Daniel Plourde of multiple acts of sexual abuse against Simendinger when she was a minor. The suit alleges that the Fort Kent congregation and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc. were negligent, failed to keep her from harm and caused her emotional distress.
“It left me vulnerable. It left me scared,” Simendinger said in an interview on Wednesday, in which she was joined by her attorney, Mike Bigos. “It made me feel like I was responsible for what happened to me. I was intimidated.”
It is the second recent case against the Fort Kent Jehovah’s Witnesses. In October 2023, Fyans was found guilty of sexually assaulting two children in the early 1990s.
Simendinger is coming forward now because she feels safe and is no longer intimidated by anyone in the church, Bigos said. He and his client want a jury trial.
“We want to ask a jury to find damages for the health that was taken from Shannon as a result of the abuse that she experienced, that we believe the evidence will show was enabled by the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the institutional betrayal she experienced once she notified them,” Bigos said.
Simendinger shared the alleged abuse with her mother at the time, and her mother notified the police, she said. The church allegedly punished her mother for going to law enforcement. Simendinger did not state what the alleged punishment was.
She hopes the legal process will help others and aid her own healing.
The lawsuit contains seven counts. The first, sexual assault, charges that Ezzy, Fyans and/or Plourde abused and assaulted Simendinger while acting in their church roles, according to the document.
Other alleged violations include negligence and breach of fiduciary duty — given the protection the church should have been providing to children — as well as actual or implied malice, and inflicting emotional distress. The lawsuit seeks damages, punishments, costs and other relief.
The attorneys representing the church — Brad Patershall of Portland and Joel Taylor of Brewster, New York — did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Simendinger is not intimidated anymore and wants the church and its members to be held accountable for what she went through, she said.
“Other people are going to be harmed if I just sit back,” she said. “The main goal for me is healing, helping others, and for them to be accountable for letting this stuff happen.”
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CSA Victom Speaks Out
by LostintheFog1999 ini happened to come across this video at the beginning of the week.
you feel so sorry for this poor woman who experienced csa and then the hardheartedness of the elders (what's new there) when she needed genuine love and help.. https://fb.watch/j1qacgxphi/.
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A JW posted this video as evidence that 99% of Jehovah's Witnesses CSA cases are falsified. I tried to open it but could not...perhaps because I am in Canada. Is there any substance to his claims based on the video?
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Romans 6:7
by Jerryh in*** w74 10/1 pp.
607-608 questions from readers ***.
romans 6:7 reads: for he who has died has been acquitted from his sin.
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6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.7For he that is dead is freed from sin...18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.The idea that by dying sinners pay for all their sins in life fits Watchtower wishful thinking theology.
But Romans 6:7 is talking specifically about anointed Christians. We, who are dead in Christ are to live after the Spirit. Just as those who die physically are free from further sinning, so should the Christian, being dead, live free of sin.
Unlike the anointed who have received the gift of justification, the majority of mankind are on another wider path that leads not to life, but to destruction. Jesus did not give sinners a false warning. He did not say, you don't have to repent as long as you die you will end up in paradise. Rather he said “If you do not repent you too will die in your sins!” Sinners will be resurrected to condemnation and judgment; they will have to give an account for everything done in secret. Some will face more severe consequences for their actions than others. But ultimately the destiny of the wicked on the broad path is eternal destruction.
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Why the WATCHTOWER doesn't believe in the GREAT APOSTASY but you should!
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/i4uttjj7eus?si=0b-fzpqm8axb_d3p.
in its latest april 2025 watchtower study article 17 and paragraph 12 the watchtower promotes 2 dangerous lies that will cost your life if you are a believing christian during the time of the end, so i'm considering today the first lie in the first part of the paragraph, but first let's read the paragraph itself: "today, jehovah promises to provide us with spiritual protection.
he will never allow satan to corrupt true worship.
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Kerry King
I agree that much in the New Testament that is applied to by futurists to our day, really describes events that occurred in the first century.
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UNBELIEVABLE! Actual chat conversation with an active pioneer JW.
by deaconbluez ini don't think so lol.
lol.
lol.
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Even though the bible recommends otherwise..
