Rights are pretty slippery items.
Girls here have the right to an education but not in some Middle Eastern countries.
Do UN decisions about rights of everyone decide the issue for all?
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The Watchtower Society want basic human rights but ''somehow'' deny disfellowshipped members theirs
by RULES & REGULATIONS injehovah’s witnesses imprisoned for their faith—by location.
locations where jehovah’s witnesses are put in prison, sometimes under harsh conditions, for practicing their faith and exercising basic human rights.. .
others are imprisoned for their conscientious objection to military service.. watchtower society: please don't lecture anyone on the denial of basic human rights when you take away the rights of disfellowshipped family members associating with their family and friends!.
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The Watchtower Society want basic human rights but ''somehow'' deny disfellowshipped members theirs
by RULES & REGULATIONS injehovah’s witnesses imprisoned for their faith—by location.
locations where jehovah’s witnesses are put in prison, sometimes under harsh conditions, for practicing their faith and exercising basic human rights.. .
others are imprisoned for their conscientious objection to military service.. watchtower society: please don't lecture anyone on the denial of basic human rights when you take away the rights of disfellowshipped family members associating with their family and friends!.
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Vanderhoven7
Perhaps I'm missing something. Are we just talking about shunning? If so...
Is it our right to have our former friends and parents contact us when we want them to... when they would rather not?
It seems to me that they have the right to deny us any communication they wish and for whatever reason they choose.
I'm not saying that shunning is loving or moral....just that no one is obliged to fellowship or interact against their will.
I expect a few dislikes on this post.
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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
by Alex Williams inthis statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.
jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.
[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].
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Vanderhoven7
Alex,
So you don't know their names. Everyone in the upper room knew the names of those taking the lead.
You don't know their names means you don't know who was chosen and you can't answer Jesus' question.
You don't know their names but you can tell me the continent they were chosen on, the country they were chosen in, the state and the city they were chosen in, the offices they occupied in Brooklyn as well as the month and year they were chosen to be the faithful slave.
Its strange that you know all this information, but that the very unnamed ones were propogating the lie that Pastor Russell who died in 1916 was the faithful slave. In fact those allegedly chosen ones in Brooklyn never knew they were chosen; they went to their graves clueless.
It was only on 2012 that it was revealed to the GB of JWs that these unnamed men were chosen to fill that office....and that they, the current GB inherited that office by divine succession. Amazing.
As the GB has pronounced.
We are the faithful and Discrete Slave that alone understands the scriptures and through whom you must be saved. If you do not accept us you will be destroyed by Jehovah. This is what the Bible clearly teaches. Put your faith in us and survive Armageddon which is just around the corner.
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What Biblical message should be proclaimed now according to Jesus himself ?
by Alex Williams inthis is what jesus said.
matt 24-14.
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. looking at this verse what is the central theme?
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Vanderhoven7
Jesus told 8 kingdom of heaven parables from a boat. (Matthew 13 and Mark 4).
Four of these parables were field parables pointing to the fact that the kingdom consisted of "good seed" /sons of the kingdom/church that would start out small but grow to an enormous size having birds/weeds/demons/false Christian's, resting in its branches right up until the harvest.
This kingdom of heaven, has nothing to do with 1914 or any other year. It has to do with the king and his true followers.
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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
by Alex Williams inthis statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.
jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.
[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].
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Alex
Can you tell me the names of the ones Jesus appointed in Brooklyn as his Faithful and Discrete Slave in 1919?
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Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters
by Lobsto ina month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.
two days ago, i received a response from them.
i think this is gonna be the first of many.
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Vanderhoven7
Glad you guys (Johnamos, Fink and LeeT) continued to reply to scholar unsupported views.
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Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters
by Lobsto ina month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.
two days ago, i received a response from them.
i think this is gonna be the first of many.
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Vanderhoven7
Right on LeeT
Faith in men who prove themselves wrong time and again.
Faith that is not in God and the Bible, but men and their word.
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What Biblical message should be proclaimed now according to Jesus himself ?
by Alex Williams inthis is what jesus said.
matt 24-14.
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. looking at this verse what is the central theme?
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Vanderhoven7
Jesus preached the gospel of the kingdom. Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom. That kingdom was established in 33 AD with the in filling of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.
1914, Pastor Russell, Rutherford and company, Watchtower Society etc. has nothing to do with the kingdom. The kingdom that was and is established is the church of God which consists of every true believer in Christ Jesus.
Everything else is just counterfeit christianity.
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Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters
by Lobsto ina month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.
two days ago, i received a response from them.
i think this is gonna be the first of many.
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Johnamos
So clear and succinct. 😊
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Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters
by Lobsto ina month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.
two days ago, i received a response from them.
i think this is gonna be the first of many.
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Vanderhoven7
Scholar
"produced outstanding scholarship with Bible Chronology..."
Are you saying that 1799, 1874, 1878, 1914, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1975, reflect outstanding scholarship?
"...but have also produced the finest and most accurate Bible translation -New World Translation ever made."
What non WTS affiliated scholars say that the NWT is the most accurate translation?
I suspect the only people who would say that are the ones that say Jesus appointed a small group of Bible Students in Brooklyn New York as his FDS in the spring of 1919.