Posts by Vanderhoven7

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False prophets with other religions

by lostsheep82 in

i remember when i was young an article we studied that stated something to the effect that, religions or other people have at times set dates or tried to set dates using chronology but that those were deemed false prophets.... can anyone point me to any or multiple articles or quotes that can help me in my fight with my parents?

i'm battling the 1914 generation change at the moment.

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Vanderhoven7

@ Sir

I happen to have the Awake magazines for both October and November 1995. Great little tool to show visiting JWs.

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Watchtower August 2020 Are they introducing new light?

by Listener in

the latest watchtower is now out and they make this statement -.

7 during the thousand year rule of christ, all of jehovah’s earthly children will have to make changes to please him.

so all of them will have true fellow feeling as they help the resurrected ones to combat sinful tendencies and to live by jehovah’s standards.

Vanderhoven7

Marking for the excellent quotes.

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Lingering doubts and internal debates

by Huxley1979 in

jw
friends

hello, i am in the beginning stages of a slow fade.

over the years i have become more and more dissatisfied with the beliefs, teachings, and organizational practices of the organization.

i no longer have faith in it.

Vanderhoven7

Glad you have joined us Huxley!

The Watchtower historically has readily depended on newspaper exegesis coupled with eisegesis to determine Jehovah's eschatological agenda. Don't give the virus a second look as being part of an alleged "composite sign".

The organization has never had a clue about how to interpret Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Further Jehovah tells us not to fear the words of those who make false predictions.

Jesus was giving his disciples a heads up as to when exactly to flee Jerusalem and Judaea and to.pray their flight would not be in winter or on a Sabbath (escape restrictions).

As for "that day", it will take place in normal times, people eating, drinking, marrying and working at jobs etc. No need to flee anywhere, saints will be taken. It will not be a local event, I.e., Jerusalem and Judaea but it will come as a snare on the entire earth, at a time that cannot be anticipated by newspaper exegesis or calculations of men. To be ready for that day will not depend on ones relationship with an organization, but with Jesus Christ himself.

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Why couldn't I stop laughing?

by Vanderhoven7 in

help me understand why i could not stop laughing watching this apparently serious video?.

https://youtu.be/xluj6cpznw4.

Vanderhoven7

I am beginning to think it's because of this young man's ongoing, detailed, honest frustrated ramblings about what it's like to be a Jehovah's Witness. No way is he going to let Watchtower religion steal any more of his life.

This video would serve as great tool to disillusion would-be recruits to the organization.

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Why couldn't I stop laughing?

by Vanderhoven7 in

help me understand why i could not stop laughing watching this apparently serious video?.

https://youtu.be/xluj6cpznw4.

Vanderhoven7

Help me understand why I could not stop laughing watching this apparently serious video?

https://youtu.be/xLuJ6cpznW4

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Tips for a Slow Fade

by Huxley1979 in

jw
friends

i'm a born and raised witness.

i was an elder for almost 20 years.

almost the same in fulltime service.

Vanderhoven7

To expand your social life try volunteering while fading. .

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David Splane's incredible shrinking generation

by waton in

in this mid-week's video, the speaker talking about the marriages of jacob, and joseph, mentions, that jacob had 4 female bearers of his children; therefore the sons were closely spaced in age, perhaps born at the rate of 4 per year, in total much less then 10 years apart with joseph being the youngest at the time , perhaps 17. so:.

the overlapping group generation championed by the same speaker, in the earlier teaching refers to "-- joseph and his generation died --" as key generation proof ext.

we have the tacit admission that his core contemporary family generation group spans less than a decade.

Vanderhoven7

There are only two meanings for the word generation in the gospels; either one set of parents to the next or the people at a given time time living contemporaneously.

The Watchtower changes the meaning of words to fit it's own faulty eschatology regardless of consistency of biblical usage.

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In love with disfellowshipped JW

by Amberlou in

i started dating a coworker who is a divorced jw.

found out he was disfellowshipped, and he was trying to figure out how to make things work.

i am not a jw, and his family is not supportive of the relationship.

Vanderhoven7

He is defined by his religion as long as he still believes the religion is the truth. Time to abandon ship before you sink girl

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For those who are STILL believing Christians...

by BoogerMan in

the latest watchtower of august 2020 discusses on page 15, "how will the resurrection likely take place?".

since learning real truths as opposed to the org's version of truth, has your view of the resurrection changed significantly?

just one example - regardless of psalm 37:9,11,29: matthew 5:5 & revelation 21:3,4, do you now believe that our destination is heaven rather than earth?.

Vanderhoven7

Well RR,

I believe in 3 classes of Christians; overcomers, undercomers, and squeakers by, who are all heaven bound children of God saved eternally because of their faith in Christ; eternal life being a gift, not a reward.

Overcomers are those who look like Jesus, bearing 100 fold fruit of the Spirit, the others 60 fold and others 30 fold. All will be rewarded with authority according to their works produced in cooperation with the Holy Spirit.

Well that's what I think and I do believe I have God's view on that. 😇

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Spiritual Paradise Watchtower Style

by Vanderhoven7 in

can you believe the presumption?.

https://youtu.be/1mamt-krcnc.

https://youtu.be/wjnk-mr_860.

Vanderhoven7

It should be quite evident that the happiest people on earth live in the exquisite Watchtower Paradise while anxiously awaiting the annihilation of 8 billion inhabitants of earth.