You made me spill my coffee Stan. That's one sure way to get a "shepherding" call. LOL
Vanderhoven7
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Shepherding visit
by donnye ini cannot seem to find any information on which elder/s are assigned to do a shepherding visit on a congregation member.
does one of them have to be the member's field group leader?
can any elders do a shepherding visit at a member's request?
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Shepherding visit
by donnye ini cannot seem to find any information on which elder/s are assigned to do a shepherding visit on a congregation member.
does one of them have to be the member's field group leader?
can any elders do a shepherding visit at a member's request?
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Vanderhoven7
Theoretically, elders should be willing to make shepherding calls upon request. But I wonder if your group leader is a little fearful and feeling inadequate to help or build you up because of your physical issues or that he does not know what it is that you want or need from him. If that is the case, it might be helpful to find some theological issue that is troubling you and you need clarification on. One example might be if you lack assurance that you will survive Armageddon.
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Past Watchtower Society Comments On Vaccines
by BluesBrother intoday there is a lot of hope placed in a vaccines to immunise against covid 19 , and relief that they are soon to be available.
that will be shared by the eight million or so jws in this world.
they should be thankful that the wts has moved away from its teaching ,that lasted for decades , proclaiming that vaccination was wrong, and a tool of satan.
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Vanderhoven7
I remember when we were kids in the 50s, we were required to be vaccinated prior to travel to Barbados. As soon as we were vaccinated my dad, an unbaptized publisher, rushed us into the airport washroom and applied alcohol over the injection.
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Dearest Tec... re the Rich Man and Lazarus..
by AGuest inthe greatest of love and peace to you, dear one!.
thank you for your kind patience.
his request to have lazarus dip the "tip" of his finger in "water" and "cool" his "tongue," tells us: there is no water in the world of the dead.
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Vanderhoven7
Sorry but I don't find your arguments convincing. Seems to me that, other than the name, the fictitious Lazarus of the Luke 16 parody bears no resemblance to the Lazarus of John 11. So i suppose we will just have to agree to disagree.... at least until the resurrection anyway.
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Dearest Tec... re the Rich Man and Lazarus..
by AGuest inthe greatest of love and peace to you, dear one!.
thank you for your kind patience.
his request to have lazarus dip the "tip" of his finger in "water" and "cool" his "tongue," tells us: there is no water in the world of the dead.
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Vanderhoven7
Hi Peaceful,
Sorry, I see no resemblance between Lazarus of a fictitious story and the historical figure of Mary and Martha's brother.
The Pharisees would say Lazarus (God is your help) claiming they could not lift a finger to help the common people in their struggles; to do so would result in their torment in the afterlife in the left side of Hades. So Jesus told their imaginary story back to them with "God your help" in Abraham's Bosom/right side of Hades/hell, exactly where the Pharisees placed them for accepting their struggles in this life.
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Dearest Tec... re the Rich Man and Lazarus..
by AGuest inthe greatest of love and peace to you, dear one!.
thank you for your kind patience.
his request to have lazarus dip the "tip" of his finger in "water" and "cool" his "tongue," tells us: there is no water in the world of the dead.
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Vanderhoven7
Lazarus was a common name in Israel. It means God your help. If Lazarus and the Rich Man is a parable or at least an allegory, then there could be no relationship between Martha and Mary's brother and a fictitious person.
God is your help was a common phrase employed by the Pharisees who claimed there hands were tied so they could not lift a finger to help the poor or disabled without jeoparding their afterlife. Very similar to JW elders who say they must leave unwitnessed alleged child molesters in Jehovah's hands.
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Dearest Tec... re the Rich Man and Lazarus..
by AGuest inthe greatest of love and peace to you, dear one!.
thank you for your kind patience.
his request to have lazarus dip the "tip" of his finger in "water" and "cool" his "tongue," tells us: there is no water in the world of the dead.
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Dearest Tec... re the Rich Man and Lazarus..
by AGuest inthe greatest of love and peace to you, dear one!.
thank you for your kind patience.
his request to have lazarus dip the "tip" of his finger in "water" and "cool" his "tongue," tells us: there is no water in the world of the dead.
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Vanderhoven7
For the full story on Lazarus and the Rich Man, try the following explanation derived from my book entitled "Eternal Torment-Image and Reality" available @Amazon Books.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vhnTDNzmRX82p0jPm9puCAVmC4qAxC1ZJztSsEBbnIA/edit?usp=drivesdk
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Should Social Media Silence Conservative Views?
by minimus ini find it very disturbing that media outlets as well as facebook, instagram, google and others decide that a point of view is not acceptable simply because they don’t share an opinion.
perhaps it is at least right now but i think it’s very wrong.
what’s your view?
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Vanderhoven7
8: Many Church Members
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Norwegian Documentary on JWs with Eng. Subtitles
by Vanderhoven7 inhttps://youtu.be/dxcnaayw20c .
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