Maybe someone figured out the old light didn't make sense. Under the old light, best if you killed yourself now before Armageddon so you could be sure to be resurrected. If all 7.8 billion people on the planet would have believed the Watchtower gospel, and drunk the WTS coolaid, virtually all of mankind would have been given a chance at life eternal. Still if you have not committed suicide by Armageddon, your death will count for nothing anyway. Still better die now than later I suppose.
Vanderhoven7
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Just how much of a dramatic FLOP is this NEW LIGHT?
by Terry inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1xpxxtqvys.
your opinion, please, on the above video.
1. before jesus, humans were judged either by the law (jews and converts) or by natural law (noahide law).
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Merry Christmas Everyone
by jhine ini don't think that it's too early to start this thread so .
merry christmas everyone.
maybe people could share christmas music or clips to get us all in the mood.
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Vanderhoven7
Joyeux Noel tout Monde!
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Prayer for every day
by May1981 ini pray for every person in the world.
you can also join my prayer.
and may the creator hear our prayers.
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Vanderhoven7
Hi May,
Welcome to the forum!
Yes, lets pray especially for those who are trapped in cults like Jehovah's Witnesses.
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What are the maim lies Apostates tell about Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Vanderhoven7 inmain not maim.
picked this answer up on quora.
please add other apostate "lies" you are aware of.. "jehovah's witnesses cannot refute the facts in the so-called “ lies” against them, and when they do, they shamelessly lie and tell half-truths to defend their mind-controlling sect.. their new york based leaders tell them that anything negative said about their sect is a “ lie “ from “ mentally diseased, bitter apostates”.. jws are yet to come to terms with the fact that we are in the information age and they can no longer get away with lying to protect their organisation.. for example, one of the “ lies “ told about them is that they shun anyone who leaves the cult , including family members, including their own children.. another “ lie “ is that jws are ready to allow their children to die rather than accept a life-saving blood transfusion.. the child sex abuse coverup in the cult is also said to be a “lie “.
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Vanderhoven7
Gillies Gray writes:
What are the main lies apostates spread about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and why are they lies?
While it is unfortunately true that there are a few former members who spread lies against the Jehovah’s Witness religion, a far more common occurrence is that ex-members are wrongly accused of lying when they state facts concerning the Watchtower and its doctrines.
Whilst reading anything written by critics of their religion, Jehovah’s Witnesses are invariably on the look out for any little detail that could possibly be used as an excuse to accuse the author of lying.
The motivation for doing this stems directly from the fact that Jehovah’s Witnesses are desperate to affirm the narrative that their religion is uniquely fulfilling bible prophesy. In order to maintain this illusion, opposers of the religion must be vilified and their opinions discredited.
Jehovah’s Witnesses try to force fit current events and circumstances to match prophetic bible verses and they look for any small pretext on which to base a belief that the prophesy pertains to them, thereby reassuring and convincing themselves that theirs is the true religion approved by God.
For example, in 1 Timothy 4:2, Paul talks about Christians in the ‘latter periods of time’ who will fall away from the faith and go on to ‘speak lies’. Because Jehovah’s Witnesses wish to believe that they are the only true followers of God and are living in the ‘last days’, they are constantly on the alert to find ANYTHING that resembles the fulfilment of that ‘prophetic’ scripture. As a result, they find any excuse to be able to accuse their critics.
This frequently leads to false accusations against their critics, claiming they are promoting lies about the Organisation and its teachings. JWs often assume a critic is saying something that they are not.
Jehovah’s Witnesses tend to take criticism of their organisation personally and are hypersensitive to legitimate negative criticisms. They are not accustomed to hearing the truth about their religion without the sugar coating which allows them to overlook the negative aspects of their theology. This results in false claims that lies are being told.
The irony is that the majority of objective, informed critics of the Watchtower Organisation go to great lengths to ensure that what they say is as accurate as possible. On multiple occasions many of them have actually argued against people who make false accusations about Jehovah’s Witnesses. These critics are genuinely offended when people promote misinformation about the Watchtower Organisation because it works against their objective of exposing the truth about the religion.
Jehovah’s Witnesses will always be swift to accuse their critics of lying if doing so confirms their prophetic narrative. However, on Quora and elsewhere, there have been countless occasions when Jehovah’s Witnesses who have accused a critic of lying have been asked to point to the alleged lies, but invariably, the JW either withdraws from the exchange, deliberately ignores the question or deflects onto another topic.
There is absolutely no good reason or excuse to lie about the Jehovah’s Witnesses, because inventing falsehoods about them works in their favor. Ex-JWs don’t need to invent lies when there is an abundance of genuine reasons for valid criticism. The most effective and efficient way of exposing the faults in the Jehovah’s Witness religion is to use their own literature, as well as highlighting the fundamental flaws in their apologetics.
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Armageddon Aftermath
by Vanderhoven7 inactually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .
welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.
https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.
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Vanderhoven7
Hi GB,
Thank you for your response, but you answered neither of my questions.
1. Do you believe the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the Faithful and Discreet Slave Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24? A simple "yes" or "no" will do.
Paul informed the Ephesians that they had been saved by grace. Ephesians 2:8-9
2. Have you been saved by grace? Again, a simple "yes" or "no" will do.
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What are the maim lies Apostates tell about Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Vanderhoven7 inmain not maim.
picked this answer up on quora.
please add other apostate "lies" you are aware of.. "jehovah's witnesses cannot refute the facts in the so-called “ lies” against them, and when they do, they shamelessly lie and tell half-truths to defend their mind-controlling sect.. their new york based leaders tell them that anything negative said about their sect is a “ lie “ from “ mentally diseased, bitter apostates”.. jws are yet to come to terms with the fact that we are in the information age and they can no longer get away with lying to protect their organisation.. for example, one of the “ lies “ told about them is that they shun anyone who leaves the cult , including family members, including their own children.. another “ lie “ is that jws are ready to allow their children to die rather than accept a life-saving blood transfusion.. the child sex abuse coverup in the cult is also said to be a “lie “.
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Vanderhoven7
that some Jehovah's Witnesses died as a result of refusing a blood transfusion.
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Benehania df
by Yomama ini have a confession i was at benihana restaurant and i shared a table with a df person now can i be df because we were eating at same table..
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Vanderhoven7
If he is disfellowshipped then he us no longer a brother but in the world according to the organization. So you can treat him like Jesus treated publicans and sinners with whom he ate. Yes, the Watchtower will disfellowship you...but without scriptural support.
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Armageddon Aftermath
by Vanderhoven7 inactually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .
welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.
https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.
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Vanderhoven7
Hi GB,
Thank you for your response.
Do you believe the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the Faithful and Discreet Slave Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24?
I appreciate every scriptural reference you provided, especially the following one from Ephesians.
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 NASB
Have you been saved by grace?
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Armageddon Aftermath
by Vanderhoven7 inactually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .
welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.
https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.
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Vanderhoven7
Hi Godbeliever,
Thanks for your input.
Do you believe God is going to permanently destroy 7 billion or so at Armageddon
If so, who do you believe will survive the destruction? For example, do you believe only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses have that scriptural hope?
And what do you envision will happen to those who die before the tribulation starts?
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Armageddon Aftermath
by Vanderhoven7 inactually you can hear it from the governing body himself (jehovah's witnesses leaders) and visualise it with this video… .
welcome to jehovah's witness paradise!.
https://youtu.be/ssd0kymdzt8.
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Vanderhoven7
How true!
I ask JWs how fair is it for God to permanently destroy 8 billion in the 21st century while raising virtually all those who die before Armageddon and giving them a chance at eternal life? Why should the timing of one's death determine one's eternal destiny?