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  Looking for a CSA Video

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this will be a short one.. i am looking for a csa court case that was posted months ago that was actually reported to a gb member and nothing was done because of the importance of the individual to the media production.

  anyone have the video regarding that case?.

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  @Jofi Oops

  @Slidin Fast Thank you. That is the case...not the particular video I was looking for...but all the info is included in this one. There is also a link to the case in the description. So thanks again.
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  10

  Looking for a CSA Video

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this will be a short one.. i am looking for a csa court case that was posted months ago that was actually reported to a gb member and nothing was done because of the importance of the individual to the media production.

  anyone have the video regarding that case?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  This will be a short one.

  I am looking for a CSA court case that was posted months ago that was actually reported to a GB member and nothing was done because of the importance of the individual to the media production. Anyone have the video regarding that case?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Vanderhoven7

  Catch Lloyd live now

  https://youtu.be/oTAv12duue8
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  Definitely gossip which no one needs to read or know about. I say take this down pronto
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  Correct usage referring to the organization?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  which sentences are technically correct.

  1 the watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 2. the watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 3. the watchtower society keeps changing its doctrines.. 4. watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 5. watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 6. the society keeps changing its doctrines.. 7. the watchtower organization keeps changing its doctrines.. 8. the watch tower organization keeps changing its doctrines..

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  Vanderhoven7

  Thanks, this is helpful.

  The Slave keeps changing his doctrines

  The Slave keeps changing Watchtower doctrine.

  The Slave keeps changing its' doctrines.

  I think I'll stick with...Watchtower keeps changing it's doctrines.

  They really get riled when I say Watchtower religion or the Watchtower gospel.

  I really don't want to say CCoJW because that is an absolute misnomer.

  And I seem to use of the term "Slave" only in a derogatory sense.
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  Correct usage referring to the organization?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  which sentences are technically correct.

  1 the watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 2. the watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 3. the watchtower society keeps changing its doctrines.. 4. watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 5. watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 6. the society keeps changing its doctrines.. 7. the watchtower organization keeps changing its doctrines.. 8. the watch tower organization keeps changing its doctrines..

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  Vanderhoven7

  Which sentences are technically correct

  1 The Watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.

  2. The Watch Tower keeps changing its doctrines.

  3. The Watchtower Society keeps changing its doctrines.

  4. Watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.

  5. Watch Tower keeps changing its doctrines.

  6. The Society keeps changing its doctrines.

  7. The Watchtower organization keeps changing its doctrines.

  8. The Watch Tower organization keeps changing its doctrines.
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  What are some of the weird teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, past and present?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just picked up a few from mark jones as follows:.

  i see is that the vast majority of jws don't seem to understand what their religion actually teaches.. the more controversial or embarrassing doctrine - although still official doctrine that has never been rescinded - is just not talked about anymore in the magazines.

  there are dinosaurs living on venus.https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/2fowhx/dinosaurs_on_venus/.

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  It should disturb JWs when they read the April 1, 1967 Watchtower p.197

  

  It's interesting to see that over 50 years later, Governing Body member Stephen lett, said exactly the same thing on JW Broadcasting:

  (57 seconds in length)

  https://youtu.be/GVHxU06VTkA
  

  This is a difference of over 50 years. Who's to say this won't be repeated again in another 50 years.
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  Does anything about your religion trouble you as a Jehovah’s Witness or is it all good?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can you add to this:.

  "does anything about your religion trouble you as a jehovah’s witness or is it all good?

  some of the things that would trouble me if i were a jehovah’s witness would include:.

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  Jackson gives rather comprehensive treatment to this question:

  "The organization has a long track record of not reporting child sexual assault. Even though now the official position is that victims and their families can report to the authorities, most will hesitate for fear of bringing reproach on Jehovah and the organization. When they do report, the elders will not assist the police in the investigation and WatchTower has directed them to destroy their notes which could be used as evidence.

  There are plenty of intelligent, capable women among JWs, but they are held back from using their gifts for anything but recruiting new members.

  The WatchTower organization has kept older publications, before 1950, from the members, except bethel elders, so they can't easily research JW history.

  The Governing Body keeps changing doctrines such that JWs look forward to these “adjustments” and can't discern the confusion and contradiction.

  WatchTower tells the members that donations are voluntary, yet each congregation is required to send a predetermined contribution to the branch office in addition to the personal donations to the worldwide work. At assemblies the audience is always informed of a deficit which motivates contributions, but they are never told that the deficit is derived from a predetermined per publisher charge. It has nothing to do with actual expenditures.

  The JWs are taught that the Governing Body was chosen by Christ in 1919 to be his earthly representative, but no JW can explain how this is the case as everything is said to have happened “invisibly”

  Members are forbidden to speak to former members under penalty of expulsion. New recruits are strongly discouraged from talking to ex-jws and from doing research outside WatchTower publications. If they do, they will be considered non-progressive and the Bible study ends. This means JWs only get one side of the story.

  The JWs have an extreme shunning policy that breaks apart families even though the Christian Scriptures and the teachings of Jesus don't support this. It leads to isolation, depression, and suicide.

  The no-blood transfusion doctrine does not really have support in scripture and redults in unnecessary deaths, including of children and parents.

  WatchTower discourages members from getting university education thereby limiting the members’ potential. The JW culture discourages pursuing interests that require a lot of time in oder to get members to devote as much time to recruitment and slaving for the WatchTower corporations.

  Branch volunteers, travelling overseers, and special pioneers must take a vow of poverty which means they are exempt from receiving government aid such as social security which they don't find out until they are ousted from their assignments. The JW culture discourages saving for retirement so many have to work into their old age just to survive.

  
  
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  What are some of the weird teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, past and present?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just picked up a few from mark jones as follows:.

  i see is that the vast majority of jws don't seem to understand what their religion actually teaches.. the more controversial or embarrassing doctrine - although still official doctrine that has never been rescinded - is just not talked about anymore in the magazines.

  there are dinosaurs living on venus.https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/2fowhx/dinosaurs_on_venus/.

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  Vanderhoven7

  MR,

  Just paste the earlier comment you are interested in responding to and share your thoughts.

  TD

  For young earth creationists, that idea could be used to explain how God created male and female on the same 24 hour day.
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  Does anything about your religion trouble you as a Jehovah’s Witness or is it all good?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can you add to this:.

  "does anything about your religion trouble you as a jehovah’s witness or is it all good?

  some of the things that would trouble me if i were a jehovah’s witness would include:.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Can you add to this:

  
  

  "Does anything about your religion trouble you as a Jehovah’s Witness or is it all good?"

  Some of the things that would trouble me if I were a Jehovah’s Witness would include:

  a. the fact that every teaching that is unique to Jehovah's Witnesses is not in the Bible.

  b. the fact that 99% of Jehovah’s Witnesses today are not saved, justified from all sin, imputed the righteousness of Christ, or access to the New Covenant.

  c. the fact that I could not come to Jesus Christ and share my burdens with him and worship him as the angels in heaven, the wise men and his disciples did and all of creation will do to the glory of God the Father. Rev. 5:11–14

  d. the fact that I would have to shun my adult children if they lost faith in the leadership of the Society and disassociated themselves.

  e. the fact that I would be spreading a false unbiblical gospel that does not save anyone and affiliates people with an organization, but not to Christ.