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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-29-2013 WT Study (GB = FDS)

  by blondie in

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  faithful slave over them?.

  faithful slave.

  the faithful slave?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Gillies Gray writes:

  The only valid reason to believe something is true is when there is sufficient evidence to support the claim.

  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

  The burden of proof to back up the assertion that a group of religious leaders were appointed by a supernatural being, second only to the Almighty Himself, would be astronomical. The evidence required would need to be of the highest order.

  As things stand, Jehovah’s Witnesses lack valid arguments for the assertion that the Governing Body was ever appointed by Jesus. The best they have is extremely weak abductive reasoning which fails to demonstrate the claim.

  Contrast the Governing Body with the examples of God’s appointed representatives found in the bible, all of whom had some kind of extraordinary supernatural verification for their divine appointment. There is not one example of a true representative who was not in direct communication with God or His son.

  The claim that the Governing Body were appointed by Jesus is a baseless assertion motivated by mere wishful thinking.
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  Calling DD Data Dog

  by Fisherman in

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  how about you dd?

  start a topic, make a comment, do something.

  miss your posts here.

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  Data Dog is in the building

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5067697587486720/jw-news-last-days-newsletter-issue-6-covering-week-may-22-28-2023#4665097855696896
  
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  The Last Days?

  by ozziepost in

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  today's issue of time magazine bears the front cover headline "the last days of the taliban".. the urgency of these "last days" is re-inforced in the magazine's articles by the use of words such as "final reckoning", "last sanctuary", "rule unraveled for good", "endgame".. words and phrases such as these may seem familiar to regular readers of the watchtower magazine which regularly describes the present time as being the "last days" of this "system of things".. interestingly time describes the "last days of the taliban" as occurring just two months after the commencement of the "time of the end" for the taliban.. i wonder how many witnesses will give this some thought as they consider the watchtower's latest declaration of urgency for the last days of this system of things.

  at what stage will these "last days" cease to be the last days?

  can they last 100 years?

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  Vanderhoven7

  Well, at least they are 100% consistent!
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  The Last Days?

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today's issue of time magazine bears the front cover headline "the last days of the taliban".. the urgency of these "last days" is re-inforced in the magazine's articles by the use of words such as "final reckoning", "last sanctuary", "rule unraveled for good", "endgame".. words and phrases such as these may seem familiar to regular readers of the watchtower magazine which regularly describes the present time as being the "last days" of this "system of things".. interestingly time describes the "last days of the taliban" as occurring just two months after the commencement of the "time of the end" for the taliban.. i wonder how many witnesses will give this some thought as they consider the watchtower's latest declaration of urgency for the last days of this system of things.

  at what stage will these "last days" cease to be the last days?

  can they last 100 years?

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  Vanderhoven7

  Thought I would resurrect this ancient thread to remind JWs on board how long we have been in the last part of the last day

  This little gem from the Awake of 1967, May 22.
  

  

  And this:

  "Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom." The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216

  And this:

  "Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!" Watchtower 1984 Mar 1 pp.18-19

  And this:

  "He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century". Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12.
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  Shunning.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

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  with so much being said about the jws shunning policies again at the present time i thought it would be worth reposting this article.. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc9803876/.

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  Vanderhoven7

  https://youtu.be/YoaeijH10q4
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  Is 1914 still a major belief in JW land ? Or has it been abandoned ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i just wonder about this topic as it is now 109 years since that date and what was expected to take place has never happened ..

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  Fisherman

  What evidence convinces you that Christ became invisibly present in 1914?

  Secondly, what evidence convinces you that Jesus selected Joseph Rutherford and the directors of the Watchtower Society to be his Faithful Slave in 1919?

  Thirdly, what evidence convinces you that accepting these dates and the events alledged to have transpired on these dates is necessary for salvation or even to be a Christian?
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  Dad Seeking Truth Website

  by gavindlt in

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  i created this website as a legacy to reach my children and have a reference for my story.

  www.dadseekingtruth.com.

  it is my truth in discovering the truth for my son ashton and my daughter honey bee..

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Gavin,

  May the words God spoke to you come to pass real soon.
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  Is 1914 still a major belief in JW land ? Or has it been abandoned ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i just wonder about this topic as it is now 109 years since that date and what was expected to take place has never happened ..

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  Vanderhoven7

  I found this question on line:

  Is it true that the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the only way of salvation?

  The answer given was:

  If you don’t trust the Faithful Slave, you do not trust Jehovah. How can anyone be saved if they don’t trust Jehovah? Jehovah fully trusts the Faithful Slave, so shouldn’t you trust the Slave as well and receive the words of the Faithful Slave as the word of God.

  All the evidence in the Bible points to the selection of the Slave in 1919 when Joseph Rutherford and the directors of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania were serving in Brooklyn New York. These were fine anointed men, with humble hearts teaching wonderful truths out of the Bible. Yes, they made asses of themselves when they taught in the Millions Campaign that 1925 would mark the return of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and that in 1926 you could call Abraham in Jerusalem and ask for Granny to be raised. But, they, unlike Christendom admitted their mistake and revised their understanding.

  Similarly in 1968 when they taught young people that they would never grow old in this system and were encouraged to stay alive till 75 and now they are AARP card carrying senior citizens. But that mistake was because many Jehovah’s Witnesses blew these cautious predictions in their minds until they burst asunder. Then they were humbled and learned not to serve God for a date. That is when the true worshippers began making those neglected repairs on their homes and made dentist appointments again. But the point is, the Faithful Slave is not infallible like the Pope of Rome. Yet if you do not heed their message and refuse to trust them, you will be destroyed at Armageddon or sooner, during the Great Tribulation. Only those who trust in these princes have a scriptural hope of surviving the conclusion of this system of things…as the scriptures say.

  Unfortunately, Jesus can’t save you without them. So hurry and come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation.
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  Is 1914 still a major belief in JW land ? Or has it been abandoned ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just wonder about this topic as it is now 109 years since that date and what was expected to take place has never happened ..

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  Vanderhoven7

  I don't see in scripture that people must find an organization to have God's approval or to be justified

  The requirements for forgiveness and imputation of righteousness are clear and they are repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

  There is nothing like; you must trust the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to have God's approval.
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  Is 1914 still a major belief in JW land ? Or has it been abandoned ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just wonder about this topic as it is now 109 years since that date and what was expected to take place has never happened ..

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  Vanderhoven7

  So without 1914 or 1919, what exactly makes association with wt essential to salvation?