Posts by Vanderhoven7

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My goodness! Fourteen years since I began posting here...

by garyneal in

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friends

i'm not sure if anyone remembers me since i do not post here much anymore.

i sometimes pop in around christmas time to see if anyone is interested in exchanging christmas cards like we used to back when i first posted on this site.

speaking of which, the holiday season will soon be upon us.. if you recall, i was married to a jehovah's witness and i had a daughter i spoke of a lot.

Vanderhoven7

Welcome back Gary!

I remember you.

Glad you are fairly good terms with your wife and her mother.

Hope you will stick around and enter the fray once again.

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If JW is not the truth, then what is the true religion?

by TxNVSue2023 in

even though i'm disfellowshiped ( & i belive wrongfully so).

i still belive this is the truth.

i have been d'f for about 8 months now and working on reinstatement.

Vanderhoven7

It's not rocket science. If there is one true religion, it can't possibly be the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. Every one of the religion's unique beliefs are nowhere found in the Bible; they have a 100% failure rate in interpreting biblical prophecy; they have failed again and again to protect children from sexual abuse; their unloving shunning policies have contributed to the suicide of former members; their medical quackery has resulted in loss of health and even death of It's members.
Besides all this, they are preaching a false gospel and a false Jesus all around the world and trying to take credit for it.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Vanderhoven7

I can't help listening to Lloyd without seeing him aware he has lost moral credibility.

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Goodbye Mother

by punkofnice in

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friends

so my mother passed on 20 aug 23 from the big c. i was there when she went.

that was indeed very traumatic.

i won't go to describe it.. dad went 17 years ago so there's just me now.

Vanderhoven7

Sad to hear of your loss Punky. Glad you had family around to help.

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WT History Video

by Vanderhoven7 in

here is a clear presentation of watchtower history.

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https://youtu.be/u5jnngqqyvc?si=lbuyopdr-n5sji47.

Vanderhoven7

Here is a clear presentation of Watchtower History.

https://youtu.be/u5JnngqQYvc?si=LbUyoPDr-N5sjI47

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JW.ORG Needs Lawyers

by Vanderhoven7 in

jehovah's witnesses are not encouraging university education... but those who are lawyers already can apply to volunteer to help at bethel.. https://youtu.be/5d_-1lbg-oc?si=fsxeewic-fkczu9p.

Vanderhoven7

Jehovah's Witnesses are not encouraging University Education... but those who are lawyers already can apply to volunteer to help at Bethel.

https://youtu.be/5d_-1LBG-Oc?si=fsxEEwic-fkCZu9P

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You may not have read the Apologist version of 607 b.c.e.

by Terry in

jerusalem 607 bce vindicatedapostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.

read this chapter.... 5: servitude to the king of babylon for 70 years?.

read this chapter.... 9: the 70 years for tyre.

Jeremiah predicted that Israel would be freed from Babylonian captivity after 70 years (Jer 25:11, 12). Daniel 9 begins with Daniel noticing this prophecy (Dan 9:2). He then prayed earnestly for his people Israel. In this way, the 70 years set the stage for Daniel’s prayer and for the subsequent prophecy. Where do we find these 70 years in history?

The prophecy of Daniel 9 was received after the Babylonian Empire was already defeated by the Medo-Persian Empire (Dan 9:1). Have the 70 years already come to an end at that time?. And when did it begin?

Jerusalem was destroyed in BC 586/587 but that was not the beginning of the 70 years because the 70 years were not the period of Jerusalem’s desolation. It was the period of Babylonian rule (Jer 25:11). The 70 years, therefore, run from 609 BC, when Babylonians finally defeated Assyria, until 539 BC, when Cyrus conquered Babylon.

The detailed article is available here.
To the list of articles at the top.

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The Pharisaical Persuasion

by Vanderhoven7 in

the pharisaical persuasion by stephane maillet.

the jews searched the scriptures daily because they thought salvation was within themselves.

they knew the law yet interpreted the text to their desires, burdening the people with heavy traditions and ordinances.

Vanderhoven7

The Pharisaical Persuasion by Stephane Maillet

The Jews searched the Scriptures daily because they thought salvation was within themselves. They knew the law yet interpreted the text to their desires, burdening the people with heavy traditions and ordinances. They did these things through their academic prestige and charm; they went to the "right Bible school." These were known in the community as the religious leaders trusted and obeyed; they had made themselves to be the gatekeepers. They controlled the people and hated anyone who tried to remove their intimidation, hence their murderous plots against Jesus.

If you give Devils enough time, they'll have you believing clearly written Bible verses don't mean what they so plainly teach. The purpose behind the agenda is to have us dependent on the Pharisees, which is to have us controlled and incapable of trusting our minds. These manipulators can captivate us into various divisive errors and bitter behaviours. They love the praise of men, and they love your money; pride is their conductor. They will put out the faithful and devour the idle. They will take meticulous time to infiltrate your life and befriend you for their advantage. We do not speak of those commonly known to be outside but of those since crept in unnoticed: evil workers.

Dear friends, God gave us accountable and independent thought. We can see the truth without any Tyrant being the key holder; we need no "judges." Try reaching out to humble and credible souls for questions; some good brethren love Jesus and will love you. Open the Bible and begin to read; read slowly without distraction, and take the time to soak in the context. You will be significantly fascinated by the information that has since been withheld from you. The pure Gospel will liberate you from all toxic individuals and beliefs if you receive it humbly.

Does "The Pharisaical Persuasion" remind you of anyone?

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Beroean Pickets

by joe134cd in

hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

Vanderhoven7

For those who are interested in Matthew 24

https://beroeans.net/2019/09/25/examining-matthew-24-part-1-the-question/

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Beroean Pickets

by joe134cd in

hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

Vanderhoven7

Mr. Wilson has excellent videos on Matthew 24. I say that for the most part, because we are in agreement on this critical chapter. I think he is doing God's will to the best of his ability...but I think he would be better off not showing contempt for the Trinity....eternal torment, yes, Trinity, no.