But apparently they still haven't let Adam and Eve off the villain's list. They had their perfect chance even though God promised them a Saviour who would crush the head of the serpent and bruise his heel in the process.
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Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?
by Vanderhoven7 indbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.
i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.
here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.
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Israel vs Hamas
by Riley inwe might have russians involved in the middle east and are attacking israel.. wait.. i thought the watchtower and tract society was the central figures in the end times.
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not that i believe in any of this nonsense but any news in jw world about how the evangelical narrative might be playing out closer than the wts stupidity.
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Vanderhoven7
All Watchtower speculation about Armageddon over the past 130 years has proven to be a waste of time, energy and peace of mind. And it will continue to be exactly that in the future.
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Need Vocal Renditions of Sing Praises to Jehovah
by cybernyben101 ini am looking for vocal renditions of some the kingdom songs in this old songbook: sing praises to jehovah.
most of my favorite kingdom songs are from that songbook and i would love to download them on my phone.
i enjoy listening to vocal renditions of kingdom melodies.
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Vanderhoven7
Hello cybernyben101
Welcome to the forum!
Sounds to me that some of the Kingdom Melodies have given you comfort in the past.
I hope someone on board can help you in your quest and that you stay a while and share some of your story with us.
Be blessed
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I am looking to meet friends in South Africa
by RoscoeLaw69 inif there is anyone who would like to make contact in kimberly, south africa, please reach out 072 220 9255.
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Vanderhoven7
Hi Roscoe,
Welcome to the forum!
FYI South Africans on board can send you a private message (PM) on this forum.
You know of course that most of the people here are anti-Watchtower and more often than not, for good reason. If you are experiencing personal difficulty yourself because of elders decisions feel free to share them here and you will get support and encouragement based on experience.
Shalom
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Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?
by Vanderhoven7 indbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.
i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.
here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.
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Vanderhoven7
DBM writes on the question: Will Sodomites get a resurrection?
I guess it depends the date that you asked this question. Here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:
Their latest answer is a non-dogmatic “We have no idea” based on a talk from the October 2023 Annual Meeting.
At this meeting they also say that they are going to be less dogmatic, I wonder why? Maybe because they got a lot of things wrong in the past and are a bit embarrassed that people are doing the research and posting it online?
Here’s the link to the video the screenshot is from :https://youtu.be/mGZpnN0p4tM
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WRONG Bible wordings #2
by BoogerMan in2) (revelation 20:5) (the rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.
) this is the first resurrection.. wtbts: the term "come to life" is actually figurative and does not mean the literal resurrection of the dead.. there are 2 destinations for all those who are resurrected - some go to heaven, but most stay on earth.
also, both resurrections will occur at approximately the same time - at the commencement of the millenium.. revelation 20:5 states that the 2nd resurrection doesn't occur until after the 1000 years have ended, thereby rendering it a later resurrection.
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Vanderhoven7
Revelation 20:5) (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.) This is the first resurrection
As I understand it the comment in parentheses was a scribale gloss.
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Vanderhoven7
Duh! Where else will we play golf?
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found a tract at my door/with a catch!
by enoughisenough ini found a tract at my door.
it was from a local baptist church!
( actually,i think someone wanted to give me a donation for the left over yardsale items i gave away.
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Vanderhoven7
When my dad was attending a JW conference while studying with Witnesses, he picked up an evangelical tract on the ground. A Witness grabbed it from him, crumpled it and tossed it on the ground saying it was apostate literature. My dad came back afterwards and picked up the tract and out of curiosity, read it. It wasn't much later that he became an evangelical Christian. His moto after that was, "After religion, try Jesus"
One difference was, that he retained the truth about no immortal soul and eternal torment.
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Vanderhoven7
Yes, try Revelation 21
The New Heaven and Earth
1¶And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.5¶And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.2 Peter 3:13 KJV — Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. -
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2023-10-13-Announcement (Reporting Field Service)
by Atlantis in2023-10-13-announcements (reporting field service).
page 1. https://imgbox.com/96lgsfw4 .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/zynoa02m .
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Vanderhoven7
Mark Jones writes
You know, for decades there would be released an annual report showing how many Jehovah’s Witnesses there are worldwide.
When the numbers dropped, they instead started to publish the number of peak publishers. This would include non-baptised children who had become “unbaptised publishers”. So it would look like the numbers went up.
Since COVID the number of people waking up skyrocketed. ExJW Reddit alone jumped by 25,500 members during 2020 alone. Since COVID to date, it’s increase has gone from 45,700 - 90,800 members. These include people who are still attending meetings, pretending to still believe it but wanting to leave.
Whenever Watchtower makes a policy change it is always due to one of three reasons:
- Legal issues.
- To save face.
- Money.
In this case, having to report the number of low membership AND low ministry reports would be damaging. The members would see how their golden calf org is failing. And has failed.
So, hey presto, simply say “we no longer keep stats on that” and the problem goes away.