The November AGM in summation
and to tell the truth, we never did.
Vanderhoven7
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Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”
by FFGhost inso, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt into all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
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Vanderhoven7
Since the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world, He had to know before creating man
God's Devil: The Incredible Story of How Satan's Rebellion Serves God's Purposes
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt into all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
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Vanderhoven7
My take is that He knew. To be made in God's image required it, i.e., knowing and engaging with evil and overcoming.
There is a book out entitled "God's Devil" that I believe shares this view.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Sinner's Prayer
by NotFormer ini've noted before certain similarities between jws and independent fundamentalist baptists, such as door to door work.
the ifbs call it "soul winning".
the goal is usually to give a quick tour of a few bible verses, get the householder to "repeat after me" a formulaic prayer confessing faith in jesus.
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Vanderhoven7
According to the Watchtower gospel neither faith nor works are needed to be saved, I.e., to make it into the new system.
If you are just an average worldling, simply make sure you die before the GT and your death pays for all your sins. Yes and you will be raised with all the JWs who believed so hard in the Faithful Slave and worked tirelessly preaching the Organization message 10 hours a month for the last 50 years.
So, for Jehovah’s Witnesses, salvation is by faith plus works.
For the average Joe it's salvation by dying.
The past 100 years of preaching were a waste of time.
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Where’s the 2023 Service Report?
by slimboyfat inwhat’s keeping them?
this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.
maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….
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Vanderhoven7
Since Jehovah directed us to stop requiring monthly publisher reporting as of November, we cannot provide an up-to-date accurate annual service report, now can we?. As a result annual reporting is discontinued unless Jehovah changes his mind again and we can require monthly publisher service reporting again. And don't think that we stopped the necessity of publisher reporting because our numbers are declining and we don't want you to know it. Apostates will no doubt capitalize on this with their lies.
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ExJW from La France !
by jwrogue1914 inlong time lurker here.
i've been out for 8 years this very month.
today is an important date for me because i'm posting on this forum for the first time and i just post my first video on youtube yesterday (channel : jw rogue) the channel is in french but you can activate the subtiles.
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Vanderhoven7
Welcome back to the forum jwrogue
I will check out your channel.
Be blessed.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Sinner's Prayer
by NotFormer ini've noted before certain similarities between jws and independent fundamentalist baptists, such as door to door work.
the ifbs call it "soul winning".
the goal is usually to give a quick tour of a few bible verses, get the householder to "repeat after me" a formulaic prayer confessing faith in jesus.
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Vanderhoven7
Hmmm...Are people saved by:
faith alone
faith plus works
works alone
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Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”
by FFGhost inso, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
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Vanderhoven7
The WTS preaching effort was always useless propaganda peddling anyway. The millions who died between 1920 and 2023 are just about all going to be resurrected and given a chance to merit eternal life because they paid for their sins by their death. So they didn't need to hear any message from JWs at all.
And now those with good hearts who die after the GT starts will also be raised. But those who had a lengthy Bible study with Witnesses and rejected their message will probably be destroyed during the GT or at Armageddon.
So, no matter how you cut it, their message itself saves no one, not even those who receive it , and only serves to condemn those who don't.
No one ever needed to become a JW to make it into the New System.
Stop preaching and save lives JWs.
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The GB again claiming earthquakes prove it's the last days
by joey jojo infrom jw org; 2023 - a year of anxiety:.
“since the beginning of 2023, there have now been 13 earthquakes above magnitude 7 worldwide, one of the highest values since records began.”.
www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk cites 3 reasons it may seem that earthquakes are increasing in intensity and number.. 1. more population growth = more people affected.. 2. clustered statistics.
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Newspaper exegesis proves that Jesus returned in 1914 and we are in the last part of the last day.
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"We're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days....
by Ron.W. in"we're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days, shortly before the last day of the last days!!!".
how are they going to phrase this in ten years time......
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