I think the elder started out by watching woman's beach volleyball tournaments on TV. And soon, after getting addicted, he got brave enough to actually go to the public swimming pools and beaches in his area.
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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.
shame is an ancient form of control.
shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.
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How would you rate the Watchtower approved songs?
by Vanderhoven7 ini was asking why jws won't sing any church hymns even if they were doctrinally correct.
jws asked me in response if i would sing any of their songs.. dan watkins wrote .
its a hilarious misunderstanding, if it does not come from the watchtower bible and tract society, then it is effectively considered as coming from satan.
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Vanderhoven7
I was asking why JWs won't sing any church hymns even if they were doctrinally correct.
Jws asked me in response if I would sing any of their songs.
Dan Watkins wrote
Its a hilarious misunderstanding, if it does not come from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, then it is effectively considered as coming from Satan.
Music itself is largely frowned upon because of its ability to alter a persons emotional state, making it almost as dangerous as demonic possession, which is considered a very real threat if heavy metal is involved. Otherwise it is viewed as a gateway to adultery and fornication and a veritable on-ramp to the broad and spacious road leading off to destruction.
All 135 approved hymns can be found here.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/music-songs/Sing-to-Jehovah/
* The bible presents a bit of a dilemma, whilst the current New World Translation is considered the only trustworthy version, and the Council of Nicea is considered a heretical abomination guided by the devil himself (as required by all Protestant flavours), JWs will use your bible, but will typically be visibly unhappy about it."
I certainly was not impressed by any creativity in the 135 approved titles. Listened to one song so far.... orchestrated but not inspiring. Your thoughts.
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"A Jehovah's Witness"
by NotFormer ina very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.
"one of jehovah's witnesses".
it's one of those coded jargon thingies.
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By what authority does anyone have to change the Christ ordained role of believers from witnesses of Jesus to Jehovah Witnesses?
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Have you seen a UFO/UAP?
by BoogerMan inthe acronym uap once stood for "unidentified aerial phenomena," until december 2022. .
then the pentagon updated its terminology to encompass "submerged and trans-medium objects.".
https://www.defense.gov/news/transcripts/transcript/article/3249303/usdis-ronald-moultrie-and-dr-sean-kirkpatrick-media-roundtable-on-the-all-domai/.
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Quite expected. They have all been bewitched by leprechauns
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Debutante - Award-Winning Short Film
by notsurewheretogo inif you have not seen this already it is well worth a watch.. brutally traumatic and captures very well one of the biggest issues in this cult.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndapjdzj0ss.
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Vanderhoven7
Mom's reaction says it all.
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Have you seen a UFO/UAP?
by BoogerMan inthe acronym uap once stood for "unidentified aerial phenomena," until december 2022. .
then the pentagon updated its terminology to encompass "submerged and trans-medium objects.".
https://www.defense.gov/news/transcripts/transcript/article/3249303/usdis-ronald-moultrie-and-dr-sean-kirkpatrick-media-roundtable-on-the-all-domai/.
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I saw two silver flying saucers while walking with my daughter close to 40 years ago on a beautiful morning. Both stopped on a dime about 500 feet above us, paused for a moment and split off at right angles going their separate ways immediately at high speed.
We still talk about it today. My explanation at the time was that they were experimental military craft.
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Has the Organization threatened to disfellowship those who state views countering those of the Slave?
by Vanderhoven7 indo you have quotations from watchtower literature regarding how to handle those contributing to disunity in the congregation?.
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Thanks Boogerman. I used your quotation in an online debate with a Witness.
K-Girl That exactly what I was after. Thanks.
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Has the Organization threatened to disfellowship those who state views countering those of the Slave?
by Vanderhoven7 indo you have quotations from watchtower literature regarding how to handle those contributing to disunity in the congregation?.
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Do you have quotations from Watchtower literature regarding how to handle those contributing to disunity in the congregation?
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Ages of each user here?
by ukpimo ini'm interested to know the age demographics here.
it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.
it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.
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77, close to 20 years into retirement
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What has the Spiritual Paradise of the WTS been over time
by blondie inthe first mention i find in the wts publications is 1958. although the wts says the index goes from 1930 to 1985, nothing appears before 1958 a search only found by using the phrase "spiritual paradise" not in the index.
in 2015 there was a clarification of the phrase "of course, we should not conclude that the terms “spiritual paradise” and “spiritual temple” are the same.
the spiritual temple is god’s arrangement for true worship.".