Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Did You Fully Buy the WT View of Romans 6:7 (Acquitted of Sin by Dying) ?

by Sea Breeze in

romans chapter 6 is about saying goodbye to the old personality, the old man in the king james version.

the old personality must die, he cannot be fixed.

the old personality is characterized by dominance of the flesh.

Vanderhoven7

that thereafter the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment of all men would likewise take place."

Yes of course. That fact is brought out clearly in verses 12 & 13. What I am saying is that the bracketed portion of verse 5 is an addition to the text that does not fit or follow the line of thought presented. And the fact is, that although it is found in the Alexandrian manuscript 450 A.D., it is not in the Syriac manuscript 100 A.D., the Sinaitic manuscript 330 A.D. or the Vatican manuscript 350 A.D.

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Did You Fully Buy the WT View of Romans 6:7 (Acquitted of Sin by Dying) ?

by Sea Breeze in

romans chapter 6 is about saying goodbye to the old personality, the old man in the king james version.

the old personality must die, he cannot be fixed.

the old personality is characterized by dominance of the flesh.

Vanderhoven7

@ Seabreeze

Excellent work. Definitely a keeper.

Perhaps someone has a WT quotation promoting this self- atonement theory.

BTW Revelation 20:5 is not found in the older manuscripts. And if you read the text without it, the passage flows perfectly.

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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus

by fulltimestudent in

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interesting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).

quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).

but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.

Vanderhoven7

As I said, it is easy to justify killing the unborn if one determines that they are not human or not babies.

So at what point in a pregnancy does the unborn become a baby... so that it should be considered murder to abort?

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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

interesting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).

quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).

but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.

Vanderhoven7

The choice of language is extremely revealing, you keep calling the aborted fetuses "babies" which is loaded with imagery and emotional impact that assume a conclusion, that fetal tissues are the same as babies.

It is only easy to justify killing the unborn by determining that they are not human or not babies.

At what point in your thinking does a fetus become a human being deserving of protection.

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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

interesting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).

quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).

but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.

Vanderhoven7

But you know what? I can live a purposeful life just fine without Hume either.

Yes and I'm sure that doctors performing abortions daily in America can say the same thing.

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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

interesting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).

quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).

but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.

Vanderhoven7

According to Hume, the materialist cannot jump from what is to what ought to be.

"You cannot, according to Hume, derive an “ought” from an “is,” at least without a supporting “ought” premise." So, deciding that you ought not to protect babies in the womb because it inhibits freedom of choice presupposes that causing harm to unborn babies is not wrong or immoral. This presupposition seems good enough for most people in America at present.

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Biden says first 100 days his his cabinate will wear a ball gag

by mickbobcat in

so did biden make a gaff again?

he said his first 100 days his cabinet will have to wear ball gags.

lol that is some good news.

Vanderhoven7

I don't think it was necessarily a gaff. As I understand it, a ball gag consists of a spherical device on a rope that is designed to prevent speech, often used as a restraint device to keep its wearer quiet.

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looking for Jw infomation about the bible being changed etc?

by Aposta-Fish in

in one of mike and kim's latest videos they claim that the borg wrote in the 1960's that the book of revelations wasn't even finished until a much later date.

they have also stated that apostate christians changed the bible> i've also read years ago they trashed the bible or at least the king james years ago after another one of their fail predictions and right before they made their own bible> .

i'm looking for these writings and any other that where the borg is criticizing the bible?.

Vanderhoven7

The Watchtower has added the name Jehovah to the New Testament 237 times as a replacement of the word Kurios meaning "Lord". None of the ancient manuscripts or fragments thereof contain the name or the Greek equivalent of the Tetragrammaton. They had to hatch a conspiracy theory that every last vestige was removed to obscure God's name and they therefore had the right restore it to the New Testament. However, if such were the case the entire New Testament would be unreliable. Watchtower "restores" the name when NT authors quote passages from the OT containing the Tetragrammaton. However, over half the "restorations" are not quotes from the OT, so these are simply added to the text without justification.

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Shepherding visit

by donnye in

i cannot seem to find any information on which elder/s are assigned to do a shepherding visit on a congregation member.

does one of them have to be the member's field group leader?

can any elders do a shepherding visit at a member's request?

Vanderhoven7

Typical of the organization to marginalize and/or dump you after your ability and usefulness is diminished. Think of all those Bethelites who were "reassigned". That's what you get for putting trust in men.

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Shepherding visit

by donnye in

i cannot seem to find any information on which elder/s are assigned to do a shepherding visit on a congregation member.

does one of them have to be the member's field group leader?

can any elders do a shepherding visit at a member's request?

Vanderhoven7

You made me spill my coffee Stan. That's one sure way to get a "shepherding" call. LOL