Posts by Vanderhoven7

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Revealed,

I'm glad you believe what Jesus said. He said that those believing in him have eternal life. Do you believe him on that score?

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

@Revealed,

I apologize for my last two posts. They were hurtful and unnecessary. I don't know where my holier-than-thou attitude came from but it was not from a good place.

Vander

86

The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

"Oh so many assumptions! And judging me, to boot! Sad, just sad."

And am I to assume that you are not judging when you say billions of non-JWs who name the name of Christ are not Christians? You are so like your mother who also has decided that millions who were martyred before the 20th century were not real Christians either because of a number from Revelation they have assumed is literal. And what has your mother decided will soon happen to all Non-Witnesses at Armageddon?

People in glass houses should not throw stones Revealed.

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

EverApostate : How many times has Christ responded ....and conversed with you?

Revealed: Not a one

The reason for that is that you never addressed him. Christians don't talk to angels so you have never called on or spoken to or asked him anything as all New Testament Christians did. You know stuff about him, but so do demons. The fact is, you don't know him or have faith in him as your Saviour.

How do I know that? Because you are not saved. Your faith is in your religion. You have to work and hopefully survive Armageddon and then work for 1000 years to get saved. You don't know Jesus...because knowing him is eternal life. And you have admitted you do not have eternal life.

You have nothing but religion Revealed.... who challenges everyone but runs from challenges.

Vander

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

Yes Revealed, I believe all Christians are made kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Rev.1:6 "You also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ … But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light" (1 Peter 2:5-9).

So why do you, who denies the title Christian to others and claims to be saved, forgiven and sanctified by the blood of Christ yourself, not partake of the emblems of his death?

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

Seems a bit incongruous that you are willing to challenge others about the trinity doctrine but are unwilling to support your rejection of the body and blood of Christ who died for your sins and was raised for your justification.

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

I hope I'm up for a good challenge Revealed.

Nope. I am a Christian who is justified by the blood of Christ as you claim to be also.

So do you partake of the emblems of His body and blood at the memorial?

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

@Revealed

I hope you don't mind a challenge.

Let's start with justification by Christ's blood. Justification, among other things, means that you are at the least forgiven by the blood. "The blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin" the Apostle John tells us. Do you partake of the emblems of his body and blood at the memorial Revealed?

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I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

by Revealed in

...why have you left the god and his son?.

Vanderhoven7

@Revealed

Here is a guy named Mack who left the Org and kept his faith

"I am a former Jehovah’s Witness. I didn’t lose my faith, for my faith was never in the organization. Perhaps I was an unusual Witness in that respect.

My faith was in the Creator. He was still with me, and I with him, after leaving the Witness organization.

Dissociating myself from a corrupt and abusive religion is nothing like losing my faith.

My faith was stressed perhaps, but not lost. It was stressed because of my false belief in the lies Jehovah’s Witnesses conditioned me to accept, including the one that they are God’s unique representative on Earth, and that leaving them meant leaving him.

I saw for many years how much suffering their lies cause. I struggled to understand how God could use such a corrupt organization.

But it was the Creator himself, in answer to a prayer, who guided me to leave the Witnesses. If they were the unique representatives of God, as they claim to be, then he would not have done that.

My exit and recovery began suddenly one day when I got a sign from the Creator that I should leave the Witnesses. That sign told me they were not “his people” after all. That was the day in 1997 that my recovery from a 28-year nightmare began.

In retrospect, it is obvious, for “God is love” (1 John 4:8), but the Witnesses condemn unconditional love, and there is no other kind. Conditional love isn’t love at all—it’s just approval.

Faith retained, freedom gained."

86

The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Revealed,

Are you a Christian? Do you know Jesus Christ personally? Is he your Savior? Are you justified by his blood? Do you have eternal life?