i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
DT - Everything hinges on whether or not certain Bible Students in Brooklyn New York were examined and then appointed in 1919 to be the Faithful Slave...and that their mandate was passed on to all subsequent Watchtower leaders.
If they were you should stick with their teachings. If not, you are free to study the Bible for yourself asking God to guide your understanding.
My advice, based on their history, is to assume they are not and let the word of God determine what you believe.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
DT -There is no such thing as two-tier Christianity in scripture. The 144,000 and the great multitude are the same group being described in two different settings (earthly violence vs heavenly blis) and time periods (pre-vs post parousia). The gospel that 8 million Jehovah's Witnesses embrace is non-salvific and provides no assurance because ii's criteria is works-righteousness involving loyalty and submission to 8 popes in Warwick. Jesus cannot save you without these men.
Ding - Excellent analysis:
"There are other groups that don't believe in the Trinity or Hell. The distinctive of Jehovah's Witnesses is loyalty to the organization and the teaching that the GB is Jehovah's appointed faithful and discreet slave who must be obeyed without question."
Thomas - The fact is that that the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is not biblical. By that I mean that every doctrine that is unique and original to Watchtower religion is extra-biblical.
david splane comes out firing and is relentless as to the reasons why christianity was brought down.
christianity was not broken down by persecution, but by false brothers and apostate teachings.
today, jehovah's witnesses face the same danger from false brothers and apostates.
Thanks Rules!
david splane comes out firing and is relentless as to the reasons why christianity was brought down.
christianity was not broken down by persecution, but by false brothers and apostate teachings.
today, jehovah's witnesses face the same danger from false brothers and apostates.
Does anyone have a link to Splanes talk?
excuse me, but why does god need a movie studio?.
after all in the new system couldn't he just project visuals across the sky?
( star trek final frontier reference).
Reminds me of the clairvoyant who put an add in the paper regarding her services. A respondent offered her a great sum of money and at the end under the heading of address wrote. "Oh I'm sure you know"
some jokes i`ve heard and 1 or 2 i`ve made up .. the shortest man in the bible ?
knee high mia.
one with a facial affliction.?
The smallest man in the Bible was not Kneehigh-Amiah; it was the Philippian jailor because he slept on his watch.
How do we know that Adam and Eve played baseball. Because the Bible says they were there in the big inning.
Yes, religion is a racket but Christ is the Way the Truth and The Life. It's not where, but o whom shall we go?
real long shot here, has anyone come across a james arjuna ?
he's a " scientist " jw who disses evolution and is really full of venom .
i just wondered if anyone actually knows him , he's american and a real charmer .
Hi Jhine,
Yes I have bumped into James a few times. He definitely has a high opinion of himself.
What is your handle on Quora? Have you seen any of the threads I have initiated involving JW beliefs and practices?
look...i've had my beef with lloyd aka cedars and some of the stuff he says or does but equally i respect what he is trying to do and what he has achieved in terms of waking people up.. he intimated he had mental health issues years ago but his video today is brutal...i see pain in his eyes and he is suffering.
his family come first and the man needs to heal.. yes he has issues that many on here see but its not the man that is important but his work.. but the man needs time to heal mentally and i wish he does so.
he deserves that despite the feelings and things that have happened in the past with the exjw community.. he has done so much for the exjw community in general that i hope all give him a little clack and he returns.. if any of us did what he did we may be in the same boat but none of us do...see past the man and see his work but equally the man is suffering and it is pretty sad...i hope he gets better soon.
Anyone have the URL where Lloyd is thinking about chucking it all in?
