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  What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

  who is the way, the truth and the life?

  (john 14:6).

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Slim,

  I believe that the New Testament is reliable. Conspiracy theories are interesting but unproven.

  The NWT inserts the divine name 232 times in the NT. Over half those inserts are not based on quotations from the OT but obvious leadership bias.

  So even still, Jesus name is emphasized more (300+ vs 232) than the name Jehovah.

  And again, scripturally speaking, there is no access to the Father without the Son. One cannot be saved, one cannot receive the Holy Spirit, one cannot see the kingdom of God without believing in the only Begotten of the Father.
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  What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

  who is the way, the truth and the life?

  (john 14:6).

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  Hi DJW

  But here is the thing. If the name YHWH was removed from all extant manuscripts of the NT books (or if so many copies of the NT containing The Name were destroyed such that no extant copies exist), why did YHWH allow that to happen?

  Well I don't believe it did happen, i.e., that someone or some group in the second century was able to doctor or destroy all ancient NT manuscripts that contained the divine name. I'll stick with what every one of the extent NT manuscripts demonstrate, i.e. that Jehovah's name is absent from the gospels and epistles of the New Testament and that the manuscripts are therefore reliable and God preserved.
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?” — math 24:45. according to jw, the faithful and discreet slave are the “anointed” men of the “governing body” of the jehovah’s witnesses religion..

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  Is the Faithful Slave of the JWs treated just like everyone else?

  https://youtu.be/mURl8YXc0nM
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  What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

  who is the way, the truth and the life?

  (john 14:6).

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Slim,

  Interesting.

  How does Trobisch think someone or some group in the second century was able to doctor or destroy all ancient NT manuscripts that contained the divine name?

  How much faith does he have in the reliability of the New Testament?
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  JW's are the SAME as other Christians....

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...they condemn/attack those whose beliefs/opinions/interpretations of scriptures differ from theirs.. various scriptures reveal to christians that the judging of mankind will be done by christ jesus: .

  john 5:22,28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.

  5:10, 2 tim.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Here is an openly honest portrayal of Watchtower judgmentalism.

  https://youtu.be/b0KOibA2KYQ
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  JW's are the SAME as other Christians....

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...they condemn/attack those whose beliefs/opinions/interpretations of scriptures differ from theirs.. various scriptures reveal to christians that the judging of mankind will be done by christ jesus: .

  john 5:22,28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.

  5:10, 2 tim.

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  Vanderhoven7

  This is a great message for Jehovah’s Witnesses to read and absorb. If you are not a JW you are not a Christian and you will be destroyed at Armageddon for rejecting their FDS.

  That is not judging righteous judgment.

  It is OK to judge the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses as false. It is OK to judge their gospel as false. It is OK to judge their authority as false. It is not OK to judge them as individuals.

  I have met a number of JWs who appear to know both Father and Son even though they are in an unbiblical religion that judges all non-JWs as pawns of Satan.
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  Top Ten Reasons JWs Can't Cope With The Real World

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm not sure where this list came from.

  but do criticize it if you believe something is off-base.. why jws cannot deal with reality.

  the watchtower organization denies access to reality, substituting its own propaganda version instead.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Glad to hear it Rattigan. Can you identify with any of the points made by the author? Or is it all bunk to you ?
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  What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

  who is the way, the truth and the life?

  (john 14:6).

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  Vanderhoven7

  @Rattigan

  Of course it's not a competition. But the fact is that God made sure His name was excluded from the New Testament. (Based on all ancient manuscripts and fragments thereof... Jehovah is mentioned 0 times; Jesus mentioned 300+ times) Why do you think that is the case?

  The gospel does not change because it is everlastingly good news. Revelation 14:6
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  Top Ten Reasons JWs Can't Cope With The Real World

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm not sure where this list came from.

  but do criticize it if you believe something is off-base.. why jws cannot deal with reality.

  the watchtower organization denies access to reality, substituting its own propaganda version instead.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Certain parts of the Bible require considerable thought, like a treasure hunt. That is the very opposite of brain washing. You have to be prepared to do the searching and working out yourself, not depend on someone else to do it for you.

  Well said and worth repeating Anna Marina!
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?” — math 24:45. according to jw, the faithful and discreet slave are the “anointed” men of the “governing body” of the jehovah’s witnesses religion..

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  Vanderhoven7

  “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?” Matthew 24:45

  Who else could the original Faithful Slave be but the directors of the Watchtower at headquarters in Brooklyn New York in 1919. It should be obvious to us that Joseph Rutherford was among the ones chosen. If you don't accept that you should be destroyed at Armageddon. Don't you believe the Bible?

  Imagine there are some who think all faithful anointed Christians are the Faithful Slave. Of course that is Apostacy plain and simple. You must believe what the current Faithful Slave says about himself and his origins or you are not a true Christian.

  Prove me wrong!

  You can believe in the Bible, in Jehovah and His Son and still be destroyed if you do not recognize the Slave. The Bible does not give forth it's lifesaving truths without them.