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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

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  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  Thank you for both quotations.... that settles that 1914 was taught as early as 1932.

  I wonder when the last mention was made of the 1874 second coming.

  The Society may have made the switch from 1874 to 1914 in 1927. That is when they changed the start of the first resurrection from 1878 to 1918.

  "One of the many enlightening truths that God now gave his witnesses was about the members of God's spiritual nation who had died physically. This was in 1927. In that year the witnesses understood that the dead spiritual Israelites had been raised in 1918 to life in heaven with Christ Jesus. It was an invisible resurrection, of course." From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained p.192

  BUT of course, since Paradise.....Regained was published in 1958, I'm not sure how trustworthy their historical hindsight is.

  Probably safe to conclude the early 1930s saw 1914 becoming official teaching.
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  Merry Christmas

  by jhine in

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  i don't think that it's too early for my annual merry christmas thread .

  merry christmas everyone.

  jan .

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  Vanderhoven7

  Joyeux noël à tous de la nation québécoise!
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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Excellent, I thought that 1874 was changed to 1914 in the early 1930s. I stand corrected. Thank you!
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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Yes I'd like to see one of the first times WTS literature points to 1914 as the date for Christ's visitation instead of 1874.
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

  estephan.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Fisherman

  Biblically speaking, of course, there was plenty of hard evidence that Jesus was the Messiah. Sodom would have repented had they seen the hard evidence that Jesus miracles provided.

  What evidence should convince Bible believers that Rutherford et al were chosen in Brooklyn in 1919?
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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Is there documented evidence that the 1914 parousia was not believed and taught by Watchtower until Rutherford's death?
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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Yes, and it wasn't till the early 1930s that they taught the new date for Christ's parousia was 1914. Until then you couldn't be a consecrated Christian if you did not believe Christ's advent did not occur in 1874.
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

  estephan.

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  Vanderhoven7

  There is no evidence that the governing body of the WT/JW religion was chosen by Jehovah/Yahweh God

  And there is plenty of evidence it wasn't.
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  Have the Jehovah's Witnesses brought reproach on the name Jehovah?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i would have to say yes...by tagging god's alledged name in their title and attaching to it unusual doctrines, end of world date predictions, deadly blood interpretation, abusive shunning policy, csa cover ups.. is there more?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  I would have to say yes...by tagging God's alledged name in their title and attaching to it unusual doctrines, end of world date predictions, deadly blood interpretation, abusive shunning policy, CSA cover ups.

  Is there more?
  
  
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  Tony & JW made it to Norweigian media - even a pic of "dat broadcast"

  by Festus in

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  2. scandals

  well well am3 made it to norweigian media with hsi rant about religouse persecution.. hereis the link.. share your thoughts.. ble nektet statstøtte: jehovas vitner vurderer juridiske skritt – vårt land (vl.no) .

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  Vanderhoven7

  There are only two rules when it comes to Watchtower doctrine.

  1. The Watchtower teaches the truth.

  2. When the Watchtower is mistaken, refer to rule numer one.

  That's why, no matter what, Watchtower religion is always "the truth"....always was and always will be. Those who put their trust in the Faithful Slave in New York will be saved from eternal destruction. And you will see for yourself, mark the words of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, "Those who trust us because Jesus trusts us, will be the only ones who survive Armageddon."

  I'm sending in my application to the writing department tonight Vidiot. 🤪