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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  Wasn't the Beast slain when the League of Nations was scrubbed but rose again as the United Nations?
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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  Aprox 10 years as an NGO of the United Nations ending on 2000.
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  The Apostates' Handy JW Glossary

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  perhaps this has been printed here before...but still it gave me a few laughs...so here it is again.. the apostates' handy jw glossary.

  by doug checketts.

  "anointed" - an experience that, unfortunately, no "anointed" one has ever been able to explain.

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  This one deserves a resurrection.

  
  

  Oh! And here is something on a 10 year old whose parents became JWs by Grant Davies

  
  

  What is it like being raised as a child by parents who became Jehovah's Witnesses as adults?

  I was about ten when my parents became JWs.

  Quite overnight we stopped celebrating our own birthdays. We stopped celebrating Christmas. I was told to give up “worldly” friends, going to their parties and hanging out with them.

  My TV watching was monitored; the lyrics to the songs I listened to; equally.
  The books I wanted to read were monitored.
  My after-school activities were stopped.
  I was obliged to sit in a suit listening to material way above my grasp, five times a week.
  I had to go on the ministry door-to-door with someone I barely knew, with the spectre of a school-friend answering the door.
  I was told repeatedly by both my parents and others in the congregation that these sacrifices would realise their reward as the “new system” was coming any minute.

  My parents were in fact more liberal than most but my childhood was sucked dry of the some of the innocent joys experienced by class mates.

  What no one says and no one wants to admit to is that the reward is not based on any certainty.

  “It’ll be worthwhile IF you survive Armageddon.” This introduced an existential crisis. I was making all these sacrifices with no guarantee of any reward. That’s child abuse, isn’t it?

  Thank you.
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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  What evidence suggests to you that the WT F&DS is actually more like the ES of Matthew 24?

  45¶Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

  46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

  47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

  48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

  49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

  50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

  51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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  Reinstatement Procedure

  by KerryKing in

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  what else has changed?.

  during the many years i have been df'd the org has printed a new bible, new song book, doctrinal changes, so has anything changed re reinstating someone?.

  i'm contemplating the leap for family reasons but due to my job and young family commitments there is no way i would be able to attend every meeting for months on end.

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  Hi Kerry

  Welcome to the forum!

  As you can see by the responses you have received thus far, this is not a Watchtower approved site.

  I assume you arrived here by accident. There are a few active JWs on board, but in disobedience to the Faithful Slave in New York. Who knows what will happen to them come the GT leading to Armageddon.

  We would encourage you to stick around as well and take your chances. Oh yes, and please feel free to share more of your story with us.

  God bless
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  Trouble everywhere.

  by BoogerMan in

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  a man caused a serious disturbance at a vehicle repair centre today, by screaming at staff that he self-identified as an electric vehicle.. the police were called - but after talking to the man, they said they couldn't charge him!.

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  That was the same guy who went to the garage because his motor was running roughly.

  The mechanic got out his screwdriver and turned a screw and the motor ran as smooth as butter. "How much?" asked the man. "Twenty bucks", replied the mechanic. " How do you figure that when you just turned a screw!?", shouted the man. "Yes, I know" said the mechanic," it's 5 cents for turning the screw; it's $19.95 for knowing which screw to turn."
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  WT History Video

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here is a clear presentation of watchtower history.

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  https://youtu.be/u5jnngqqyvc?si=lbuyopdr-n5sji47.

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  I watched this again and I think the video is excellent.
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  CIVILIAN SERVICE

  by blondie in

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  how many remember when the wts changed their policy on alternative service; changed it to alternative civilian service so jw men could choose it because it was not supervised by the military.

  shows how the wts quibbles with words to advance a "new teaching.

  " flag salute, voting, civilian service p. 212. civilian service.

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  There should be amnesty for every JW that refused alternate service because they were under theocratic duress at the time. The WT leaders should have spent the time in prison, not the rank and file. Many experienced the consequences of putting their trust in men who make up commandments to the detriment of the flock.
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  Israel vs Hamas

  by Riley in

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  2. bible

  we might have russians involved in the middle east and are attacking israel.. wait.. i thought the watchtower and tract society was the central figures in the end times.

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  not that i believe in any of this nonsense but any news in jw world about how the evangelical narrative might be playing out closer than the wts stupidity.

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  @Bribie

  What good has 130 years of Watchtower fear mongering speculation about Armageddon done for anyone?

  What is dangerous about not speculating or not worrying about Armageddon?

  Should we only serve God for a date or an event?
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  Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.

  i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.

  here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.

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  But apparently they still haven't let Adam and Eve off the villain's list. They had their perfect chance even though God promised them a Saviour who would crush the head of the serpent and bruise his heel in the process.